puc86 Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, USFRaider said: And yet Leavitt can't even get hired as the head coach at FAU. I wonder why that is? #mediocrity #falseallegationsanssmearcampaignsbypeoplethatwronglythoughtwecoulddobetteranddidnthavetheballstoputtheirplaninactiononhonestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFRaider Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,722 Reputation: 663 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/09/2019 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, puc86 said: #falseallegationsanssmearcampaignsbypeoplethatwronglythoughtwecoulddobetteranddidnthavetheballstoputtheirplaninactiononhonestly Uh huh, and the fact that he is just not a very good head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, USFRaider said: Uh huh, and the fact that he is just not a very good head coach. By every single other measure he is far better than most head coaches and there tends to be little disagreement in the world on this. The person most would argue is our second best coach seems to like hiring him and he has been rather successful in anything he has done, he has a black eye that we gave him for no good reason and while he has suffered from it we have suffered far greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psteazy Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 571 Reputation: 81 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/14/2008 Share Posted January 9, 2020 long live The Jim. what am I still doing lurking this god forsaken place a decade later? thanks for reminder OP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFRaider Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,722 Reputation: 663 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/09/2019 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, puc86 said: By every single other measure he is far better than most head coaches and there tends to be little disagreement in the world on this. The person most would argue is our second best coach seems to like hiring him and he has been rather successful in anything he has done, he has a black eye that we gave him for no good reason and while he has suffered from it we have suffered far greater. Other than tanking in the middle of the season and finishing with four or five losses I am trying to figure out what he is far better than most head coaches at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted January 9, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 110 Content Count: 5,410 Reputation: 1,335 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The fan base was intact, excited, and looking forward to the future. No, he wasn't a great game caller. But, you can get those. We may have had better game-day coaches, but we have never energized the base since CJL left. I miss him greatly and wish he were back in some capacity. That being said, we have a new, exciting coach and the future looks great. I don't get the false dichotomy - you either loved CJL and everyone else sucked, or he was the worst and anyone mentioning his name should be shunned like Dwight Shrute. It's not black and white. It's like fifty shades of grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, USFRaider said: Other than tanking in the middle of the season and finishing with four or five losses I am trying to figure out what he is far better than most head coaches at? Building a program from nothing to BCS in under a decade, winning percentage, big wins against huge opponents, recruiting, generating excitement, fastest program in Florida history to 100 wins, being successful at USF (something no one else has ever accomplished), being in a position where actually losing to major long standing and accomplished universities can be seen as failure, getting a program to #2 in the nation, you know the usual stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 10,201 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, USFRaider said: Other than tanking in the middle of the season and finishing with four or five losses I am trying to figure out what he is far better than most head coaches at? He was very good at getting the team up for the big game. I appreciate all that he did for program and hope we name our stadium after him but I've moved on. 100% behind Scott now Edited January 9, 2020 by Bulls On Parade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFRaider Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,722 Reputation: 663 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/09/2019 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, puc86 said: Building a program from nothing to BCS in under a decade, winning percentage, big wins against huge opponents, recruiting, generating excitement, fastest program in Florida history to 100 wins, being successful at USF (something no one else has ever accomplished), being in a position where actually losing to major long standing and accomplished universities can be seen as failure, getting a program to #2 in the nation, you know the usual stuff. We don't need a program builder we need someone who can actually win the conference and Leavitt is not that guy. But if you long for Jimmy, I am sure there is still room on the FAU bandwagon, you should go check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted January 9, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 110 Content Count: 5,410 Reputation: 1,335 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I always like FAU. They reminded me of our team when we started out and it was fun to watch the program grow. Now, I have two more reasons to like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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