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[TRUTH D. Antagonist]

1 minute ago, Brad said:

It's the "undefeated" claim they hope resonates with people outside of Orlando.  

most people outside of Orlando understand going undefeated against one of the weakest schedules in the country isn't going to cut it.

thats why FCU academics is trash. lack of critical thinking, low selectivity.

[Triple B]

2 minutes ago, G25C said:

It was a better situation (and a better team) with an 11-2 Ohio State and an Alabama team that didn't reach it's conference championship game.  The schedule is an issue, especially with hurricanes wiping out their power-5 games back-to-back years.

I see where you're coming from but you're correct, the schedule is/was the issue ....

[BrassBulls12]

2 minutes ago, Meeps said:

I never said beating Pitt was our "Syracuse" to garner the spot within the CFP. I said, if you look at both teams from a real world competitive standpoint instead of some make believe world, where games on paper are played - UCF handled Pitt just like Clemson did. Clemson was ranked #3 prior to playing Syracuse or anyone that mattered. Why? You guys say Strength of schedule is the holy grail of measuring an eye test. Clemson was riding a top ranking from the beginning of the season without beating anyone of note. The hypocrisy is endless.

Just because your opinion that Purdue would be a 10 win team doesn't make it a reality. Miami has far more talent on paper than UCF, yet do any of you think Miami is a better team? Probably not. Because there are far more factors in play than simply having the skill at specific positions. Kiffin has far more star talent than other teams in CUSA. All the experts predicted FAU as the best G5 team, look how that turned out.

If you don't think a pre-season poll where top teams who have made it to the end roughly unscathed don't matter, then that's fine. But the AP poll usually isn't too far off from the CFP poll when the teams start separating themselves.

Go look at Sagarin? Cool. Tell me why Sagarin has Oklahoma at 6 but they are in the College Football Playoff.

Stop deflecting and answer the question. How does your schedule match up? 

[Triple B]

13 minutes ago, Brad said:

It's the "undefeated" claim they hope resonates with people outside of Orlando.  

They?? You mean "we". Their weak schedule is killing our chances of going to a P5 ......

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're welcome, puc ...

[Meeps]

7 minutes ago, TRUTH D. Antagonist said:

@Meeps

would FCU have gone undefeated two years in a row playing Clemson or Notre Dame's schedule? 

WELL THERE'S YOUR ANSWER.

comparing ONE common opponent (Pitt) is NOT THE SAME as playing 10+ Power 5 schools in one year.

what is so hard to understand here? FFS

Try looking at Clemson's schedule. I know this is going to be difficult. But tell me how that schedule garners the #2 spot in the nation? Can't wait.

[Meeps]

3 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

Stop deflecting and answer the question. How does your schedule match up? 

This was answered right here:

Sorry, I don't buy Clemson's body of work is much better. 

There strength of record is 98.9 (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/228/clemson-tigers). 

Guess what UCF's is?  93.8. http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/2116

But ya'know - P5 and Memphis and stuff (chortle).

[BrassBulls12]

3 minutes ago, Meeps said:

This was answered right here:

Sorry, I don't buy Clemson's body of work is much better. 

There strength of record is 98.9 (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/228/clemson-tigers). 

Guess what UCF's is?  93.8. http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/2116

But ya'know - P5 and Memphis and stuff (chortle).

Take a second look, boss

UCF

Strength of Record (RK)	93.8 (9)
Adj Win-Loss (RK)	10.8 - 1.2 (11)
Game Control (RK)	82.3 (23)
Adj Win Probability (RK)	--
Avg Win Probability (RK)	73.1% (5)

 

Clemson 

Strength of Record (RK)	98.9 (2)
Adj Win-Loss (RK)	12.8 - 0.2 (2)
Game Control (RK)	99.5 (3)
Adj Win Probability (RK)	--
Avg Win Probability (RK)	78.7% (2)

 

The big number wasn't the rank, the little on was. lol

[Triple B]

5 minutes ago, Meeps said:

This was answered right here:

Sorry, I don't buy Clemson's body of work is much better. 

There strength of record is 98.9 (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/228/clemson-tigers). 

Guess what UCF's is?  93.8. http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/2116

But ya'know - P5 and Memphis and stuff (chortle).

[Meeps]

34 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Stop bringing up meaningless bowl results. They're killing any credibility you may have garnered ....

Meaningless bowl results? So the NY6 bowls are all meaningless... you might want to tell the rest of the nation that since aside from playing for a national title, that's the next best thing. If you've played at that level where you are playing in a NY6 bowl, you're a competitor that can't stand losing.

The Bowl results prove that computer rankings only show probability, not causality. The e(SPN)xperts are biased and more wrong than they are right and that on any given day, an opponent with less talent can win. That was my point.

[Brad]

Just now, Meeps said:

aside from playing for a national title (meaningful), that's the next best thing (yet,meaningless)