JTrue Posted October 15, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, MikeG said: You may know this but for those unfamiliar.... spreads are not about respect- they are about getting people to bet money on teams. More action means more money for the sports book. They balance it out so that they win money no matter -- and establish an initial line to see where the betting takes it, adjusting along the way to make sure the have the bets are not lopsided and cause them a loss. Their is zero bias in this-- it is a zero sum game where the fees you pay for any bet are what they earn. Some games are so lopsided that they won't even put up a point spread or in the case of smaller school not offer one because there aren't enough people betting on the teams to make it worth the time to coordinate 9we face that quite often when we were still 1-AA). If a ton of people take the favorite- USF in this case- the line moves further out so the team has to win by even more points to cover and also to entice people to bet on the underdog. Bets on the underdog move the line the other direction. So even with the line starting at -30 points, enough people are betting on USF to move the line further out to -32. Whatever the line is when you make the bet is locked in-- so those folks who put money on USF at -30 got a better deal than anyone betting at the -32 line. The number of people who think the line is a prediction is astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted October 15, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,984 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,719 Days Won: 167 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, JTrue said: The number of people who think the line is a prediction is astonishing. some people just aren't gamblers or familiar with it. Not a bad thing-- beats being a degenerate gambler (the other extreme). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted October 15, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,984 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,719 Days Won: 167 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JTrue said: http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/ Can USF put up the money we already have pledged for the IPF? Not from an NCAA standpoint and more importantly perhaps - not from a fiscal responsibility duty. though I know you were probably just joking Edited October 15, 2018 by MikeG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted October 15, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,713 Reputation: 5,852 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I took Uconn and the points +32.5. Still out in Lost Wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted October 16, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,984 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,719 Days Won: 167 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted October 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, CousinRicky said: I took Uconn and the points +32.5. Still out in Lost Wages. If I had to bet on this game, I would take the same wager you did. That is a lot of points. But I would feel bad putting too much on it since at some point, I might have to start rooting against my own team to save my bet. It is the reason I stopped betting on USF at all since 2005 when we barely squeaked by covering against Miami. Of course-- in that situation, I was cheering my arse off for USF to hold them from scoring at the end of the game. Some Miami fans lost a lot of money I bet-- and you can see Miami scrambling hard to make them happy at the end of that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted October 16, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,713 Reputation: 5,852 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted October 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, MikeG said: If I had to bet on this game, I would take the same wager you did. That is a lot of points. But I would feel bad putting too much on it since at some point, I might have to start rooting against my own team to save my bet. It is the reason I stopped betting on USF at all since 2005 when we barely squeaked by covering against Miami. Of course-- in that situation, I was cheering my arse off for USF to hold them from scoring at the end of the game. Some Miami fans lost a lot of money I bet-- and you can see Miami scrambling hard to make them happy at the end of that game. I don't bet big. And only the 2nd time I've wagered this year. First time was Illinois and won that one. And I always hope to lose the bet. Want USF to crush any opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
206BULL Posted October 16, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 66 Content Count: 4,778 Reputation: 901 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/30/2009 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I'm waiting since the spread keeps increasing. However many points I can take the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted October 16, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,984 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,719 Days Won: 167 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted October 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, CousinRicky said: I don't bet big. And only the 2nd time I've wagered this year. First time was Illinois and won that one. And I always hope to lose the bet. Want USF to crush any opponent. A reasonable approach to be sure. I have the same issue with playing Fantasy Football-- which at one point had me so wrapped up in what was going on that I found myself rooting against my favorite teams. Not the same thing as betting-- but certainly pulls ones focus from what should matter to them. BUt yeah-- small bets are no big deal. These guys talking about wagering 3 months salary sound nuts to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79 Bull Posted October 16, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 686 Content Count: 7,650 Reputation: 1,201 Days Won: 6 Joined: 07/10/2003 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 I"m shocked this line has remained at -32. That means people are equally placing money on both teams so 50% of the gamblers think we'll cover at -32. Totally crazy. GO BULLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted October 16, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 40 Content Count: 1,241 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2003 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Look at uconns scores this year. They're losing by 30-50 to worse teams than us. We should win big. I'd still bet uconn though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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