JTrue Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ArmyBull said: I am not even talking about Ucf. The point is that if our conference was not extremely under valued we would be the 4th or 5th, maybe even the 3rd best conference. If our teams were ranked were they should be, Ucf would have been a “quality” loss. Conference ranking is based on those same subjective perceptions that kept the AAC down, so what makes the AAC the 6th best conference, because we were told so? I mean, I can cite 90+ computers that have us ranked 6th. I personally don't believe that all of these computer rankings are part of a global conspiracy to keep the AAC down. Edited January 25, 2018 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted January 25, 2018 These are the team efficiency ratings, which would suggest there are 10 more deserving teams. We'll subtract Auburn since they get the 20/20 effect of knowing they beat them head to head in the Peach Bowl, even though that wouldn't have come into play at the time of selection. 1 Alabama, SEC 86.4 89.9 50.6 92.8 2 Georgia, SEC 85.9 87.2 55.8 91.6 3 Penn State, Big Ten 88.6 77.2 62.2 89.8 4 OSU, Big Ten 85.6 83.5 49.1 89.5 5 Clemson, ACC 76.4 90.9 47.3 89.0 6 Oklahoma, Big 12 96.6 52.3 38.2 85.9 7 Wisconsin, Big Ten 70.1 86.9 57.2 84.7 8 Notre Dame, FBS Indep. 77.1 79.9 45.5 82.7 9 Washington, Pac-12 78.3 75.4 55.4 82.4 10 Auburn, SEC 70.7 84.7 46.8 82.4 11 UCF, American 80.4 66.6 63.7 80.6 http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/tab/efficiency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, BrassBulls12 said: These are the team efficiency ratings, which would suggest there are 10 more deserving teams. We'll subtract Auburn since they get the 20/20 effect of knowing they beat them head to head in the Peach Bowl, even though that wouldn't have come into play at the time of selection. 1 Alabama, SEC 86.4 89.9 50.6 92.8 2 Georgia, SEC 85.9 87.2 55.8 91.6 3 Penn State, Big Ten 88.6 77.2 62.2 89.8 4 OSU, Big Ten 85.6 83.5 49.1 89.5 5 Clemson, ACC 76.4 90.9 47.3 89.0 6 Oklahoma, Big 12 96.6 52.3 38.2 85.9 7 Wisconsin, Big Ten 70.1 86.9 57.2 84.7 8 Notre Dame, FBS Indep. 77.1 79.9 45.5 82.7 9 Washington, Pac-12 78.3 75.4 55.4 82.4 10 Auburn, SEC 70.7 84.7 46.8 82.4 11 UCF, American 80.4 66.6 63.7 80.6 http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/tab/efficiency You can't cite anything from ESPN. They're part of the dark army keeping us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,611 Reputation: 10,868 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, JTrue said: I personally don't believe that all of these computer rankings I noticed that UGA, PSU, Wisconsin and OSU were all ranked #1 in one or more of those rankings ..... Have to assume those state legislatures are all firing up national champion license plate campaigns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, Triple B said: I noticed that UGA, PSU, Wisconsin and OSU were all ranked #1 in one or more of those rankings ..... Have to assume those state legislatures are all firing up national champion license plate campaigns. That's a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JTrue said: You can't cite anything from ESPN. They're part of the dark army keeping us down. I'm not calling anything wrong unless i'm willing to check the math, Which I am not. Anyone else? have at it eam efficiencies are based on the point contributions of each unit to the team's scoring margin, on a per-play basis. The values are adjusted for strength of schedule and down-weighted for "garbage time" (based on win probability). The scale goes from 0 to 100; higher numbers are better and the average is roughly 50 for all categories. Efficiencies update daily during the season. Edit: Second source http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fei This one takes out Washington but still leaves Auburn and the Seven I mentioned. The Fremeau Efficiency Index (FEI) is a college football rating system based on opponent-adjusted drive efficiency. Approximately 20,000 possessions are contested annually in FBS vs. FBS games. First-half clock-kills and end-of-game garbage drives and scores are filtered out. Game efficiency (GE) is a measure of net success on non-garbage possessions, and FEI opponent adjustments are calculated with special emphasis placed on quality performances against good teams, win or lose. Strength of schedule (SOS) ratings represent the average number of losses an elite team (two standard deviations better than average) would have against the team's entire schedule. Offensive FEI (OFEI) is value generated per drive adjusted for starting field position and opponent defenses faced. Defensive FEI (DFEI) is value generated per opponent drive adjusted for starting field position and opponent offenses faced. Special Teams Efficiency (STE) is the average value generated per possession by a team's non-offensive and non-defensive units. Note that SOS, OFEI, DFEI, and STE ratings formulas and formatting have been updated for the 2017 season. Archived ratings for other seasons will be updated in the off-season. Rk Team Rec FEI GE Rk SOS Rk OFEI Rk DFEI Rk STE Rk 1 Georgia 12-2 .312 .239 6 3.03 2 3.36 7 .98 5 .05 21 2 Alabama 12-1 .305 .271 2 2.42 4 3.19 11 .88 2 .04 32 3 Clemson 11-2 .289 .230 7 2.24 7 2.76 21 .83 1 .01 53 4 Oklahoma 12-2 .281 .219 9 2.46 3 4.16 1 2.13 53 -.02 85 5 Auburn 9-4 .265 .195 11 3.24 1 2.87 17 .95 4 .05 26 6 Ohio State 12-2 .248 .268 3 2.04 10 3.39 5 1.24 7 .01 54 7 Penn State 11-2 .238 .275 1 1.57 37 3.41 4 1.44 12 .10 6 8 Wisconsin 13-1 .237 .228 8 1.25 55 2.71 24 .93 3 .07 15 9 Central Florida 12-0 .237 .241 5 .98 74 3.32 8 1.50 15 .07 14 Edited January 25, 2018 by BrassBulls12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said: I'm not calling anything wrong unless i'm willing to check the math, Which I am not. Anyone else? have at it eam efficiencies are based on the point contributions of each unit to the team's scoring margin, on a per-play basis. The values are adjusted for strength of schedule and down-weighted for "garbage time" (based on win probability). The scale goes from 0 to 100; higher numbers are better and the average is roughly 50 for all categories. Efficiencies update daily during the season. ArmyBull checked the math and says the AAC is definitely the 5th best conference, maybe the 4th, but probably the 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,253 Reputation: 6,141 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, JTrue said: ArmyBull checked the math and says the AAC is definitely the 5th best conference, maybe the 4th, but probably the 3rd. I thought based on having the National Champions we moved up to #1! #aac4life 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, puc86 said: I thought based on having the National Champions we moved up to #1! #aac4life No. All of this is pre-playoffs. Everyone knows UCF is the National Champion now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted January 25, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, JTrue said: ArmyBull checked the math and says the AAC is definitely the 5th best conference, maybe the 4th, but probably the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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