Gilbert Rumors

[George_Bullnard_Shaw]

35 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said:

Personally, my biggest issue is people absolving the offense from that loss.  We lost as a TEAM the defense let us down in a key moment but the offensive game plan allowed that moment to come.  Purely blaming that loss on the defense ignores the other 3.90 quarters of the game.    A poorly planned game plan and a coordinator's ego not moving his players away from it  allowed 4th and 24 to be relevant.   

Yes. You shouldn't be in a position where a last minute 4th and 24 conversion can decide the game. Not with our team's talent against Houston. Every part of the wagon fell apart that game. Offense didn't work well enough, special teams were their usual disaster and defense didn't seal the deal.

[chapelbull]

6 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

Flowers average 0.5 yards per carry in that game.

OK, and he threw for 325.  My point was that I felt that the ball was taken out of our best player's hands too often at times.  Just an opinion, not the end all be all.

Edited January 17, 2018 by chapelbull

[Apis Bull]

3 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

OK, and he threw for 325.  My point was that I felt that the ball was taken out of our best player's hands too often at times.  Just an opinion, not the end all be all.

You post just proves that Sterling changed the offense for the game.  Flowers threw 38 times.  The stats don't agree with your assertion that we took that ball out of his hand too often.  2/3 of the offensive plays were either passes of Flowers runs.  He wasn't effective as a runner and if he had passed like he did in the previous two games, Houston would have routed us.

[chapelbull]

2 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

You post just proves that Sterling changed the offense for the game.  Flowers threw 38 times.  The stats don't agree with your assertion that we took that ball out of his hand too often.  2/3 of the offensive plays we passes of Flowers runs.  He wasn't effective as a runner and if he had passed like he did in the previous two games, Houston would have routed us.

I'm not going through the entire game log, but if we want to play the stats game we scored two TDs below our average on the season.  If we get close to that, then the last play is meaningless .... 

I think the point really is that there were far more factors than the last play that led to that loss, a loss that we should not have had

[Bull Dozer]

21 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

OK, and he threw for 325.  My point was that I felt that the ball was taken out of our best players hands too often at times.  Just an opinion, not the end all be all.

Flowers completed 60% of his passes and had over 300 yards and that was the most successful part of our offense but please continue torun right at Ed Oliver at 2.5 a clip......  FYI Flowers was averaging 8.55 YPA that's highly efficient but again please run at Ed Oliver some more.....  Also if Houston has our run game shut down like they did and Flowers was able to move the ball through the air what do you think Houston was selling out to stop.....  

Let's put on our football thinking caps here folks......

[Apis Bull]

Just now, Bull Dozer said:

Flowers completed 60% of his passes and had over 300 yards and that was the most successful part of our offense but please continue torun right at Ed Oliver at 2.5 a clip......  FYI Flowers was averaging 8.55 YPA that's highly efficient but again please run at Ed Oliver some more.....  Also if Houston has our run game shut down like they did and Flowers was able to move the ball through the air what do you think Houston was selling out to stop.....  

Let's put on our football thinking caps here folks......

Gilbert did have him throw, 38 times, nearly half of the offensive plays.  This proves that Gilbert adjusted his game plan and didn't run it all the time.  

[Bull Dozer]

Just now, Apis Bull said:

Gilbert did have him throw, 38 times, nearly half of the offensive plays.  This proves that Gilbert adjusted his game plan and didn't run it all the time.  

Because we had an INSANE 93 offensive plays that game but because we kept trying to force the run we only scored 24 points.  That is down right atrocious efficiency on offense.  If you have 93 offensive plays you should be scoring in the 50's.  But you're not going to be efficient if you continue to bang your head against the wall and force something that is not working, at all....

We had 20 more offensive plays than Houston and 7 minutes more possession but we didn't do anything with them because Gilbert was infatuated with proving his teams manhood or something instead of doing what was working......This is horrible offensive efficiency because a coach put his kids in a position to fail.....

[Brad]

Was it really 38 passes, 55 rushing?  That's not close to a balance.

[Bull Dozer]

2 minutes ago, Brad said:

Was it really 38 passes, 55 rushing?  That's not close to a balance.

Yup......

 

[chapelbull]

1 minute ago, Brad said:

Was it really 38 passes, 55 rushing?  That's not close to a balance.

Sounds pretty similar to the overall season ratio.