JTrue Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 31, 2016 3 hours ago, TromBull12 said: To pay devil's advocate, hasn't the Game of football changed dramatically during this time span? If you're in a conference with high powered offenses, doesn't that skew the numbers a little? If you're in a conference that's run heavy and your great at stopping the run, you look like a defensive king. On the other side, if you're in a conference where no one can run the ball... In the first half of the season we couldn't stop anyone from running on us. Second half of the season we couldn't stop anyone from passing. I honestly believe these numbers are unfairly impacted by sample size and the change in the game. (Plus I'm bored) You're just digging for excuses. It's ok to say he's not a good DC. The sun will still come up tomorrow. Publix wings will still be awesome. We still went 11-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TromBull12 Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 953 Reputation: 607 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/28/2014 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Who'sYourData? said: Tom Allen, 2015. Navy, Maryland, FSU, Memphis, WKU are burned into my mind. I feel like the love for him was a mix of three things: 1. His energy. His defense was aggressive whether it was inherently good or not. 2. He Followed Chuck Bresnhan... 3. The offenses we faced were building and not as potent as they are now. 1 hour ago, JTrue said: You're just digging for excuses. It's ok to say he's not a good DC. The sun will still come up tomorrow. Publix wings will still be awesome. We still went 11-2. I built in a disclaimer saying I was bored lmbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbulls Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 10 Content Count: 274 Reputation: 77 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/14/2010 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Tom Allen's defense was quite an improvement from the previous year. Yes, it was not perfect, but it looked like he was building something good and they would have been even better this year. I did not get that feeling with Woodie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,009 Reputation: 10,813 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Allen's defense not in best ever at USF. We just needed someone who appeared to competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TromBull12 Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 953 Reputation: 607 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/28/2014 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, tbulls said: Tom Allen's defense was quite an improvement from the previous year. Yes, it was not perfect, but it looked like he was building something good and they would have been even better this year. I did not get that feeling with Woodie. I agree on both fronts. My personal belief is that some of that Tom Allen love was media influenced. Every game you watched on TV they were talking about "Bull Sharks" and what he did at his previous school. I also take issue with the fact that he came in for 1 year and jumped ship sideways. Which put us in the situation we're in. I think Woodie had big shoes to fill because of the previously mentioned expectation that may or may not have been realistic. Plus the fact that it was Woodie's first DC job. I believe it's a mix of inexperience and lack of player discipline/personal accountability. How do players run the same defense but forget how to tackle, contain, hold their gaps, take the right angles? If Allen was such a good coach and teacher, how do the players unlearn what they were taught? I believe those same issues existed last year but were masked by energy and positive press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullshiznitz Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 128 Content Count: 1,768 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/26/2001 Share Posted December 31, 2016 6 hours ago, TromBull12 said: To pay devil's advocate, hasn't the Game of football changed dramatically during this time span? If you're in a conference with high powered offenses, doesn't that skew the numbers a little? If you're in a conference that's run heavy and your great at stopping the run, you look like a defensive king. On the other side, if you're in a conference where no one can run the ball... In the first half of the season we couldn't stop anyone from running on us. Second half of the season we couldn't stop anyone from passing. I honestly believe these numbers are unfairly impacted by sample size and the change in the game. (Plus I'm bored) The change in the game would actually play right into what use to be the strength of our defense. We use to play one of the most dynamic offenses in the league (WVU) for several years and use to shut them down. We use to struggle with power run teams (Pitt/Rutgers) and shut down the spread/read option teams. Now we can't shut down anyone (power run or spread teams). I still think it falls back to the DL. We've lacked dynamic playmakers there for years. The only pressure we would get this year is during blitzes. Hopefully Bruce Hector and/or Love can turn into that next year. Get consistent pressure from the DL, and the whole defense changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, TromBull12 said: I also take issue with the fact that he came in for 1 year and jumped ship sideways. Which put us in the situation we're in. He took a job in his hometown at his alma mater (with a huge raise) that directly led to him being HC at that school a year later. You have an issue with that? Edited December 31, 2016 by JTrue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dausfbulls11 Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 320 Content Count: 3,030 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/15/2005 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I have a feeling he was told he was a coach in waiting type situation maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampatony Posted December 31, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 645 Reputation: 50 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/09/2010 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Our defense this year is a symptom of a bad Defensive line and our DBs not playing to their potential maybe because of how bad our defensive line was. There were multiple recruits on the d-line that didn't show up (Ivy being one) that hurt us. If we have 2 more good d-linemen like Calloway and Ivy we are probably right where we were last year maybe a point or 2 worse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted December 31, 2016 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,680 Reputation: 5,816 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted December 31, 2016 3 hours ago, JTrue said: You're just digging for excuses. It's ok to say he's not a good DC. The sun will still come up tomorrow. Publix wings will still be awesome. We still went 11-2. And they are on sale and my wife brought some home for lunch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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