BullsFanInTX Posted December 22, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 222 Content Count: 4,210 Reputation: 647 Days Won: 8 Joined: 08/17/2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, RaisingFenix said: Slowing down the offense may mean working on the short-to-intermediate passing game, in order to move the chains and create longer sustained drives. As much fun as it is to have 1-play TD drives, it's not always optimal if the defense is gassed. If Mack or Flowers breaks one to the house, great, but if the D is struggling, it's probably not a great idea to be throwing long bombs that are going to put the D back on the field quickly, either by scoring or going 3-and-out. I'm hoping that's what he's referring to: situational play calling. Again, why try purposely to have long drawn out drives when you CAN score in a couple plays. The more plays there are, the more chances something can go wrong. If we can hit bombs all the time, then why not score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted December 22, 2016 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,733 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted December 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, RaisingFenix said: Slowing down the offense may mean working on the short-to-intermediate passing game, in order to move the chains and create longer sustained drives I'm not sure we could have a shorter passing game. I think all he's talking about is maybe using more of the play clock at certain times. we certainly weren't a no huddle, line up and hike the ball team like Chip Kelly's UO teams, I don't think. Once he actually looks at the video maybe he'll realize that and understand that we scored fast, not because of tempo usually, but because of home run plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisingFenix Posted December 22, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 433 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/13/2012 Share Posted December 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, BullsFanInTX said: Again, why try purposely to have long drawn out drives when you CAN score in a couple plays. The more plays there are, the more chances something can go wrong. If we can hit bombs all the time, then why not score. I hear you, and of course if the deep ball is there, we take it. But if we can still be efficient on shorter plays, it would add a new element to our offense. If the choice is between scoring fast or not scoring at all, sure, go light speed. But if we can sustain drives too, all the better. Several times this year, opponents did that to us - converting third down after third down, and it was really frustrating and kept our O off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisingFenix Posted December 22, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 433 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/13/2012 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Triple B said: I'm not sure we could have a shorter passing game. I think all he's talking about is maybe using more of the play clock at certain times. we certainly weren't a no huddle, line up and hike the ball team like Chip Kelly's UO teams, I don't think. Once he actually looks at the video maybe he'll realize that and understand that we scored fast, not because of tempo usually, but because of home run plays. Absolutely. We've seen our offense snapping the ball consistently with <5 seconds on the play clock in previous years. It . . . wasn't pretty. Hopefully you're right and that's not Charlie's plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullAdrian Posted December 22, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 53 Content Count: 1,291 Reputation: 54 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/19/2004 Share Posted December 22, 2016 We need to slow down when we need to have some time to resolve our defense issues during the drive. If our defense forces the turnovers more than what we did this year and we still get 40 points with our slow down offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfbullrider Posted December 22, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 3,222 Reputation: 387 Days Won: 8 Joined: 07/30/2011 Share Posted December 22, 2016 He's a dumbass for commenting on our team without watching the problems on film and getting to know the players one on one. Hope this is just a mental lapse. It is kinda like a doctor going straight to surgery without tests, X-rays, physical exam. Honeymoon is over before it began. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted December 22, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted December 22, 2016 As long as we don't substitute regularly, and we stay no huddle, I see no problem slowing it down a bit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted December 23, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted December 23, 2016 3 hours ago, HOTbull19 said: You could argue that part of the reason our defense is bad is because the offense scores so fast and because Willie wasn't a fan of extended drives. If the offense is longer on the field, it helps the defense catch their breaths They should only be on the field for thee plays. 3 hours ago, BullsFanInTX said: Too bad, so sad. If the offense scores fast, so be it. Who wouldn't want to score fast if you can. When you lengthen drives, there's more chance something can go wrong (turnovers, penalties, etc.) The whole philosophy of bend but don't break. Give the offense a chance to screww up 2 hours ago, BullAdrian said: We need to slow down when we need to have some time to resolve our defense issues during the drive. If our defense forces the turnovers more than what we did this year and we still get 40 points with our slow down offense. Again, three plays. Coach the defense and leave the offense alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlowerPower Posted December 23, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 6 Content Count: 239 Reputation: 92 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/28/2015 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, RaisingFenix said: situational play calling. Yes! this wasn't Taggart's strength at times Edited December 23, 2016 by HOTbull19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted December 23, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted December 23, 2016 TDS had a great write-up about this today. We're not actually a "fast" team. We're a "big play" team. Removing that element from the offense would be stupid. However, CWT was terrible at getting a lead and not being able to run out the clock; we'd then go 3-and-out, and our **** defense would let up a TD the following drive. Thus making the game closer than it should've been. Happened almost every game. I'd be happy to see that crap end under CST. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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