The Great 8 Posted June 24, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted June 24, 2015 No offense, but a software engineer is not an engineer. Uh, tragically idiotic statement. I know software engineers that know more about "hard" materials than you or anyone you have ever known does. It's a very interdisciplinary field. You know those 'engineers' architecting buildings that do it all by hand? Me neither. They're using CAD developed by software engineers with a deep understanding of the physical world. Know how the Wright Brothers are cranking out airplanes still? Me neither. Boeing uses sophisticated software developed by software engineers who know the physics of plane building. Tell me I'm not an engineer when you can't tell me the first thing going wrong with my Tesla and I hook up a PC to interact with the sub components that run the entire thing. Wikipedia defines engineering as the application of "scientific, mathematical, economic, social, and practical knowledge, in order to design and build structures, machines, devices, systems, materials and processes that safely realize improvements to the lives of people." The end result of software engineering is a software system that can safely improve the lives of people, and it can involve some combination of scientific, mathematical, economic, social, or practical knowledge. Do you have the faintest clue how the MAGIC of software engineering turns the utter chaos spewed out by your wireless router into the words you're reading right now even works? That's not engineering? WTF? You sound Butthurt to me. It's the innerwebz, not real worldz I was channeling my inner Louis CK . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted June 24, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Some were offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted June 26, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Some were offended No offense. If you're an "traditional" engineer, I get paid more than you. Probably 3x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismo Posted June 29, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 9,687 Reputation: 1,237 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/24/2009 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) I'm mechanical engineer... i would consider computer or software engineering if I had to do it all over agin, though I'm working on pretty cool stuff now, so not sure. Edited June 29, 2015 by Gismo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Please tell me that we had a clause in Stan's USF contract that indicates that we cease to pay him if he gets employed at another school. I know he was working with ESPN last year, but I believe we were still paying Heath. Holtz's contract lacked such a clause, and he's getting paid by both USF and LaTech. What a waste of money for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Please tell me that we had a clause in Stan's USF contract that indicates that we cease to pay him if he gets employed at another school. I know he was working with ESPN last year, but I believe we were still paying Heath. Holtz's contract lacked such a clause, and he's getting paid by both USF and LaTech. What a waste of money for us. If it was written by the same guy that wrote Skip's contract (Woolard) I am sure that answer is a no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Please tell me that we had a clause in Stan's USF contract that indicates that we cease to pay him if he gets employed at another school. I know he was working with ESPN last year, but I believe we were still paying Heath. Holtz's contract lacked such a clause, and he's getting paid by both USF and LaTech. What a waste of money for us. If it was written by the same guy that wrote Skip's contract (Woolard) I am sure that answer is a no. I sure hope Woulard didn't write the contracts himself. He had to have some help from our General Counsel office. My hope is that a different attorney handled the Heath contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,041 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted June 30, 2015 so are heath and todd fitch going to hang out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Please tell me that we had a clause in Stan's USF contract that indicates that we cease to pay him if he gets employed at another school. I know he was working with ESPN last year, but I believe we were still paying Heath. Holtz's contract lacked such a clause, and he's getting paid by both USF and LaTech. What a waste of money for us. If it was written by the same guy that wrote Skip's contract (Woolard) I am sure that answer is a no. I sure hope Woulard didn't write the contracts himself. He had to have some help from our General Counsel office. My hope is that a different attorney handled the Heath contract. Remember they were extended on the same week. Then it came out that DW also got an extension that day that he makes every bonus a coach makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted June 30, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Please tell me that we had a clause in Stan's USF contract that indicates that we cease to pay him if he gets employed at another school. I know he was working with ESPN last year, but I believe we were still paying Heath. Holtz's contract lacked such a clause, and he's getting paid by both USF and LaTech. What a waste of money for us. Very few coaches have a contract that voids on employment and certainly not for an assistant job. Those that do just sit out a year or two and cash checks as an advisor to a program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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