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[BuckeyeBull9257]

Man.  This thread. 

[raptorcj]

Man.  This thread. 

...belongs somewhere else. We suck at going tangent, sorry for my contributions!!

[charsibb]

This thread belongs in the Mad Cow.

 

That said, I'll chime in with my 2 cents.

 

Anybody that abuses drugs (including alcohol and tobacco, by the way), is stupid. Occasional use by those that are not susceptible to addiction is fine.

 

Your body is a temple, don't defile it. And teach your children well, that they might honor their own body (good on ya, hbryan, may your boy never slide the slope)

 

But that doesn't mean we use the coercive power of government to try and get people to stop doing drugs.

 

The best solution is a personal responsibility solution. You want to do drugs? Fine. They should all be cheap and legal. Do 'em until you OD in fact. In the end, the gene pool is better off without you in it.

[hm101]

How is this thread on it's 8th page? 

[slick1ru2]

 

RAP,  that's if you Buy in to the notion that Marijuana  is "more addictive and more dangerous" than Cigarettes and Alcohol (which science has shown / proven is not the case). Do some research on when and how it became Illegal to start with, also do some research of the medical benefits and the uses (which we already use and have for years and years for medical conditions).(do so in MOST if not ALL states already in some form, Pill to liquid).

 

There ARE 0 benefits from cigarettes O. Its a stretch to find some for most alcohol as well( some might argue wine in small doses) Yet both cause more illness, diseases and tragic events than Marijuana.  Again do some research,  you might actually see things in a different light.

Appreciate the reasoned reply, but with clear intoxicant and mind-altering properties, the benefits of THC for some medical cases vs the impacts don't change my mind about it, even remotely:

Acute (present during intoxication)

• Impairs short-term memory
• Impairs attention, judgment, and other cognitive functions
• Impairs coordination and balance
• Increases heart rate
• Psychotic episodes

Persistent (lasting longer than intoxication, but may not be permanent)

• Impairs memory and learning skills
• Sleep impairment

Long-term (cumulative effects of chronic abuse)

• Can lead to addiction
• Increases risk of chronic cough, bronchitis
• Increases risk of schizophrenia in vulnerable individuals
• May increase risk of anxiety, depression, and amotivational syndrome*

 

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana-abuse/how-does-marijuana-use-affect-your-brain-body

 

This is also based on real science. No, too many risks for addiction and abuse for me to agree with you.

 

 

 

 

Because the government, who spends billions on the drug war, is going to be spreading pro pot info. Really?  Nothing you wrote matches the horror that  almost half a million die prematurely every year from a legal substance. Or that if the current smoking rates hold, 5.6 million of the children under 13 will die prematurely from cigarette related diseases.

 

 

Instead of listening to the U.S. government, how about going to scientists?

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-pot/

 

 

Gateway drug? How about alcohol. They are even doing commercials on social smoking.

[Triple B]

How is this thread on it's 8th page? 

 

It's become edukasional ...

[hbryan]

 

 

RAP,  that's if you Buy in to the notion that Marijuana  is "more addictive and more dangerous" than Cigarettes and Alcohol (which science has shown / proven is not the case). Do some research on when and how it became Illegal to start with, also do some research of the medical benefits and the uses (which we already use and have for years and years for medical conditions).(do so in MOST if not ALL states already in some form, Pill to liquid).

 

There ARE 0 benefits from cigarettes O. Its a stretch to find some for most alcohol as well( some might argue wine in small doses) Yet both cause more illness, diseases and tragic events than Marijuana.  Again do some research,  you might actually see things in a different light.

Appreciate the reasoned reply, but with clear intoxicant and mind-altering properties, the benefits of THC for some medical cases vs the impacts don't change my mind about it, even remotely:

Acute (present during intoxication)

• Impairs short-term memory
• Impairs attention, judgment, and other cognitive functions
• Impairs coordination and balance
• Increases heart rate
• Psychotic episodes

Persistent (lasting longer than intoxication, but may not be permanent)

• Impairs memory and learning skills
• Sleep impairment

Long-term (cumulative effects of chronic abuse)

• Can lead to addiction
• Increases risk of chronic cough, bronchitis
• Increases risk of schizophrenia in vulnerable individuals
• May increase risk of anxiety, depression, and amotivational syndrome*

 

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana-abuse/how-does-marijuana-use-affect-your-brain-body

 

This is also based on real science. No, too many risks for addiction and abuse for me to agree with you.

 

 

 

 

Because the government, who spends billions on the drug war, is going to be spreading pro pot info. Really?  Nothing you wrote matches the horror that  almost half a million die prematurely every year from a legal substance. Or that if the current smoking rates hold, 5.6 million of the children under 13 will die prematurely from cigarette related diseases.

 

 

Instead of listening to the U.S. government, how about going to scientists?

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-pot/

 

 

Gateway drug? How about alcohol. They are even doing commercials on social smoking.

 

 

Really, using a periodical that has Scientific in the name to claim this tripe came from scientists?  Are you friends with Al Gore?  Hey, if I grabbed some dung shaped like a chalupa and wrapped it in a Taco Bell wrapper, are you game to run some Fire Sauce on it and take a bite? 

Edited January 21, 2014 by hbryan

[Dhambuc]

Same can be said for ANY medication or drug,  Take Tylenol for instance. Might think its completely safe yes?  Tylenol was the leading cause of acute liver failure in the US From 1998 to 2003.

 

"From 1998 to 2003, acetaminophen was the leading cause of acute liver failure in the United States, with 48% of acetaminophen-related cases (131 of 275) associated with accidental overdose.*

• A 2007 CDC population-based report estimates that, nationally, there are 1600 cases of ALF each year (all causes). Acetaminophen-related ALF was the most common etiology.**

　

• Summarizing data from five different surveillance systems, there were an estimated 56,000 emergency room visits, 26,000 hospitalizations, and 458 deaths related to acetaminophen-associated overdoses per year during the 1990-1998 period."   

We are talking about Tylenol Which many think is harmless.

 

Tobacco is the Leading Preventable cause of death in the US. http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/

Exposure to secondhand smoke causes nearly 50,000 deaths each year among adults in the United States:¹

• Secondhand smoke causes 3,400 annual deaths from lung cancer.¹
• Secondhand smoke causes 46,000 annual deaths from heart disease

Try to find something on cannabis related deaths, Its hard to find,  Here is one article , Pretty good read with the amount of deaths and cost to us as result of  such.   http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Causes_of_Death#sthash.NAVFLmxf.dpbs

This article states ZERO Deaths.

 

 

Alcohol is attributed to 88,000 deaths in the US each year, ranking it # 3 in lifestyle related deaths. http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

 

This is where I say we need to keep things in perspective.

Edited January 22, 2014 by Dhambuc

[slick1ru2]

 

 

 

RAP,  that's if you Buy in to the notion that Marijuana  is "more addictive and more dangerous" than Cigarettes and Alcohol (which science has shown / proven is not the case). Do some research on when and how it became Illegal to start with, also do some research of the medical benefits and the uses (which we already use and have for years and years for medical conditions).(do so in MOST if not ALL states already in some form, Pill to liquid).

 

There ARE 0 benefits from cigarettes O. Its a stretch to find some for most alcohol as well( some might argue wine in small doses) Yet both cause more illness, diseases and tragic events than Marijuana.  Again do some research,  you might actually see things in a different light.

Appreciate the reasoned reply, but with clear intoxicant and mind-altering properties, the benefits of THC for some medical cases vs the impacts don't change my mind about it, even remotely:

Acute (present during intoxication)

• Impairs short-term memory
• Impairs attention, judgment, and other cognitive functions
• Impairs coordination and balance
• Increases heart rate
• Psychotic episodes

Persistent (lasting longer than intoxication, but may not be permanent)

• Impairs memory and learning skills
• Sleep impairment

Long-term (cumulative effects of chronic abuse)

• Can lead to addiction
• Increases risk of chronic cough, bronchitis
• Increases risk of schizophrenia in vulnerable individuals
• May increase risk of anxiety, depression, and amotivational syndrome*

 

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana-abuse/how-does-marijuana-use-affect-your-brain-body

 

This is also based on real science. No, too many risks for addiction and abuse for me to agree with you.

 

 

 

 

Because the government, who spends billions on the drug war, is going to be spreading pro pot info. Really?  Nothing you wrote matches the horror that  almost half a million die prematurely every year from a legal substance. Or that if the current smoking rates hold, 5.6 million of the children under 13 will die prematurely from cigarette related diseases.

 

 

Instead of listening to the U.S. government, how about going to scientists?

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-pot/

 

 

Gateway drug? How about alcohol. They are even doing commercials on social smoking.

 

 

Really, using a periodical that has Scientific in the name to claim this tripe came from scientists?  Are you friends with Al Gore?  Hey, if I grabbed some dung shaped like a chalupa and wrapped it in a Taco Bell wrapper, are you game to run some Fire Sauce on it and take a bite? 

 

 

 

From wikipedia

 

 

Scientific American (informally abbreviated, SciAm) is an American popular science magazine. It is notable for its long history of presenting scientific information on a monthly basis to the general educated public, through its careful attention to the clarity of its text as well as the quality of its specially commissioned color graphics.^{[citation needed]} Many famous scientists, including Albert Einstein, have contributed articles in the past 168 years. It is the oldest continuously published monthly magazine in the United States.

 

 

 

So we aren't talking Popular Science fyi.

[Skingraft]

I feel like getting a bag of Doritos, my Cypress Hill CD, black light, and honoring Durden

its just weed, not meth