How far we've fallen...

[Bull94]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Holtz created a hole at the QB position and now that hole is playing in the NFL.

I thought he was at UCLA.

People forget Woulard was likely coming here if Holtz stayed.

Easier to just blame everything on one person. Didn't see one comment about how LATech won its cupcake game. How can that be? He's such a bad coach. What's going to be interesting is that the cupcake that LATech played, that won its first game of the season 75-0, plays McNeese last game of the season. Wonder which cupcake wins? What if LATech's cupcake beats McNeese? What does that mean? Probably nothing, but kinda interesting none the less.

it means he took over a program that went 8-4 last year with 2 OT losses, another 1 point loss and a 2 point loss. they alos beat ole miss and lost to mighty TCU by 7. their coach was hired away to a better program because he was successful. Unfortunately our coach took over a 3-9 team that had losses to ball state and temple with an NFL QB who is now gone. BTW beating lamar by 7 isn't exactly impressive.

Lousiana Tech returns one starter from that offense.

Skip needed to go, we've moved on. He has two of this programs best wins ever. Lets just leave it at that.

yeah their leading rusher who averaged 100 ypg +28 TDs. failed to mention the 4 star senior pro-style QB they have that was rated #10 when he signed with texas tech.

I'm not defending Skip, I'm just pointing out the same thing people are saying with Taggart, he wasn't given a loaded deck.

 

sorry the situations don't come close.

 

a walk-on senior QB from the local catholic school to a kid that was in rivals top 250, rated #10 at the pro-style position, and 34th in the entire state of texas.

 

the starting RB from the #17 rushing offense in the country or the #4 RB from the #66 rushing team in the country.

 

Dykes left there with plenty of talent on that roster. Holtz loved to recruit tampa catholic and jesuit.

 

 

 

 3 starters on offense, 31 seniors, gone. The vast majority of that talent is gone. And Shaw was the #35 RB in the nation.

 

when was shaw #35 in the nation? he was #4 on our team last year.

 

BTW Shaw was a Leavitt recruit.

[slick1ru2]

 

 

 

I am trying to figure out why everyone acts like he lost every game at USF by 50 points and left a roster of 1 star players.

 

7-5, 5-7, 3-9 ... the trend explains it all. 

 

 

 

I got that, but did you dig deeper and get that a full half of those losses were by 1 score and more than 1 were on the last play?. I believe with the right DC, he'd still be here. And that an older, more established football program he'd probably have another season to try and turn it around. Why? because they understand the ups and downs of programs and that no coach is going to 'destroy' a program. 100 years of UConn football, he took them to the 1aa championships for the FIRST TIME. It wasn't year 1, or 3 or 4, it was year 5. Two of those were 4 win seasons.

 

 

Isn't it the head coaches job to build the staff? I would say you could argue that it could be the AD, but Cosh was one of Holtz's pals. I agree that our fan base is impatient because we have been lucky to have the growth and success we've had for such a young program, but at the same time, did Holtz show you anything last season to make you think he was going to turn it around anytime soon?

 

 

 

I already posted on the networking system of coaching. How giving someone you worked with a job later down the line can help your career when you are out of work. And I already said I don't agree with it.

 

And when you are attracting talent like he did at QB, hopefully Sterling would stay healthy along with the other players that have since left or transferred, yeah, I was hoping this year with a new DC it would turn around.

[JTrue]

 

 

 

I am trying to figure out why everyone acts like he lost every game at USF by 50 points and left a roster of 1 star players.

7-5, 5-7, 3-9 ... the trend explains it all.

I got that, but did you dig deeper and get that a full half of those losses were by 1 score and more than 1 were on the last play?. I believe with the right DC, he'd still be here. And that an older, more established football program he'd probably have another season to try and turn it around. Why? because they understand the ups and downs of programs and that no coach is going to 'destroy' a program. 100 years of UConn football, he took them to the 1aa championships for the FIRST TIME. It wasn't year 1, or 3 or 4, it was year 5. Two of those were 4 win seasons.

He wouldn't have lost some of those games if he knew how to use time outs or manage the clock effectively! It wasn't just his staff. Multiple games his clock management was atrocious. So bad in fact even the announcers were scratching their head pointing out his mistakes and mismanagement of timeouts. The Floyd vs FSU debacle. He looked like a complete amateur and the results speak for themselves. Okay we have the talent to win all of those close games but we need a coach that can actually manage the clock and put together a staff that will actually win, not almost win.

 

One could use the phrases "complete amateur" and "the results speak for the themselves" for a coach with the single worst loss in FCS v. FBS history on his resume. 

[Bull94]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Holtz created a hole at the QB position and now that hole is playing in the NFL.

I thought he was at UCLA.

People forget Woulard was likely coming here if Holtz stayed.

Easier to just blame everything on one person. Didn't see one comment about how LATech won its cupcake game. How can that be? He's such a bad coach. What's going to be interesting is that the cupcake that LATech played, that won its first game of the season 75-0, plays McNeese last game of the season. Wonder which cupcake wins? What if LATech's cupcake beats McNeese? What does that mean? Probably nothing, but kinda interesting none the less.

it means he took over a program that went 8-4 last year with 2 OT losses, another 1 point loss and a 2 point loss. they alos beat ole miss and lost to mighty TCU by 7. their coach was hired away to a better program because he was successful. Unfortunately our coach took over a 3-9 team that had losses to ball state and temple with an NFL QB who is now gone. BTW beating lamar by 7 isn't exactly impressive.

Lousiana Tech returns one starter from that offense.

Skip needed to go, we've moved on. He has two of this programs best wins ever. Lets just leave it at that.

yeah their leading rusher who averaged 100 ypg +28 TDs. failed to mention the 4 star senior pro-style QB they have that was rated #10 when he signed with texas tech.

I'm not defending Skip, I'm just pointing out the same thing people are saying with Taggart, he wasn't given a loaded deck.

 

sorry the situations don't come close.

 

a walk-on senior QB from the local catholic school to a kid that was in rivals top 250, rated #10 at the pro-style position, and 34th in the entire state of texas.

 

the starting RB from the #17 rushing offense in the country or the #4 RB from the #66 rushing team in the country.

 

Dykes left there with plenty of talent on that roster. Holtz loved to recruit tampa catholic and jesuit.

 

 

 

 3 starters on offense, 31 seniors, gone. The vast majority of that talent is gone. And Shaw was the #35 RB in the nation.

 

sorry good coaches actually build depth and plan for the future. he had a senior 4 star rated #10 pro-style QB, rated #34 best player in state of texas waiting in the wings. you have no clue what kind of talent he left there.

[slick1ru2]

 One D Lineman? I'd imagine the rest of the line would like to have a talk with you, Bull94. And here is Shaw on Rivals. http://florida.scout.com/a.z?s=168&p=8&c=1&nid=4186685  I don't care who recruited him, he is still on the team.

[Bull94]

 One D Lineman? I'd imagine the rest of the line would like to have a talk with you, Bull94. And here is Shaw on Rivals. not sure what link that is but nothing is on it.

 

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[Gismo]

I am trying to figure out why everyone acts like he lost every game at USF by 50 points and left a roster of 1 star players.

7-5, 5-7, 3-9 ... the trend explains it all.

I got that, but did you dig deeper and get that a full half of those losses were by 1 score and more than 1 were on the last play?. I believe with the right DC, he'd still be here. And that an older, more established football program he'd probably have another season to try and turn it around. Why? because they understand the ups and downs of programs and that no coach is going to 'destroy' a program. 100 years of UConn football, he took them to the 1aa championships for the FIRST TIME. It wasn't year 1, or 3 or 4, it was year 5. Two of those were 4 win seasons.

He wouldn't have lost some of those games if he knew how to use time outs or manage the clock effectively! It wasn't just his staff. Multiple games his clock management was atrocious. So bad in fact even the announcers were scratching their head pointing out his mistakes and mismanagement of timeouts. The Floyd vs FSU debacle. He looked like a complete amateur and the results speak for themselves. Okay we have the talent to win all of those close games but we need a coach that can actually manage the clock and put together a staff that will actually win, not almost win.

One could use the phrases "complete amateur" and "the results speak for the themselves" for a coach with the single worst loss in FCS v. FBS history on his resume.

The fact is that is a one game sample of Taggart at USF but for Holtz we have 3 complete seasons on which to base such a statement. If Taggart's team continues to look like it did in game 1, then that may become an accurate assment of Taggart's USF legacy as well.

[slick1ru2]

http://florida.scout.com/a.z?s=168&p=8&c=1&nid=4186685

Edited September 10, 2013 by slick1ru2

[Joe]

How about this.

Skip sucked. Willie has had an awful start.

Both have challenges ahead of them.

The end.

[JTrue]

How about this.

Skip sucked. Willie has had an awful start.

Both have challenges ahead of them.

The end.

We should build an OCS.