Am I the only one?

[SANJAY]

Please have no expectations until we have a hallof-fame QB, go 3 deep across the depth chart and have saran coaching. Until then be patient to beat ball state and temple.

[SANJAY]

Saban. Please have no expectations of my spelling from my phone.

[South_Florida_Flip]

The worst thing that happened was 2007? I'll take the travesty of beating auburn, WVU and unc over patiently losing to ball state and temple. But I am, admittedly, often unreasonable.

what is this guy saying? the worst thing to happen was to beat auburn and wvu ?? to be ranked #2?? no the worst thing was to lose to Temple and ball state. unbelievable.

We weren't as good as the polls suggested. It raised expectations way above our level. How is this confusing?

When we were 6-0 (not 5-0 as you had in the original post) we had the best resume in regards to quality of wins at that time during the season.

I do agree that we weren't as good as the polls had suggested and that the expectation level was too high, but I would not call that the worst thing to happen to our program.

[Bull94]

The worst thing that happened was 2007? I'll take the travesty of beating auburn, WVU and unc over patiently losing to ball state and temple. But I am, admittedly, often unreasonable.

what is this guy saying? the worst thing to happen was to beat auburn and wvu ?? to be ranked #2?? no the worst thing was to lose to Temple and ball state. unbelievable.

We weren't as good as the polls suggested. It raised expectations way above our level. How is this confusing?

When we were 6-0 (not 5-0 as you had in the original post) we had the best resume in regards to quality of wins at that time during the season.

I do agree that we weren't as good as the polls had suggested and that the expectation level was too high, but I would not call that the worst thing to happen to our program.

don't bother. the worst thing that could happen is for his kid to bring home an A. that would raise expectations too high.

[Gismo]

The worst thing that happened was 2007? I'll take the travesty of beating auburn, WVU and unc over patiently losing to ball state and temple. But I am, admittedly, often unreasonable.

what is this guy saying? the worst thing to happen was to beat auburn and wvu ?? to be ranked #2?? no the worst thing was to lose to Temple and ball state. unbelievable.

We weren't as good as the polls suggested. It raised expectations way above our level. How is this confusing?

When we were 6-0 (not 5-0 as you had in the original post) we had the best resume in regards to quality of wins at that time during the season.

I do agree that we weren't as good as the polls had suggested and that the expectation level was too high, but I would not call that the worst thing to happen to our program.

don't bother. the worst thing that could happen is for his kid to bring home an A. that would raise expectations too high.

[BullFan98]

10-3 wasn't that our best record.

[cmhatter]

Cinci

[Bull-by-Marriage]

Shoop, like Trip said logic has little to do with this board. Some like to point to stats to try to say that certain players are great, but in the next sentence, bad mouth the coaches that called the plays allowing them to gain the yards. No matter what Skip or anyone else on the coaching staff says they will not be happy. Hell, I'd bet $$ to donuts that if he resigned those same people that want him fired would call him a quitter and say that he abandoned his team.

[Hem]

I call BULLSH!T on this. I don't think anyone is asking for a NC team or expects us to be "#2" consistently. I am asking for a top 2 finish in the Big East. I expect a competitive and forward moving program. I expect to WIN games.

[sloan1919]

A quick peruse of the 1st page today, and everyone is on the "FIRE EVERYONE THEY'RE ALL THE WORST COACHES IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL" bandwagon.

I think that 2007 was the worst thing that could happen to this program.

Expectations were raised SO high and were completely unrealistic. Since that 5-0 start, fans and media alike have been trying to put USF back on that level, when the players on the field have not peformed at the level to warrant it..........not even close. They've competed at the level that their talent and coaching were capable of, which is not what fans and media expected, and therefore created a huge, fake sense of disappointment.

The fans and media following this program have been watching FSU, UF, and UM play at such an elite level for such a long period of time, that it has become.....normal. USF football is proof that it is NOT normal and it is NOT easy to reach that level, much less maintain it. It's a huge uphill climb to reach that level, and you must. be. patient. when. climbing. that. mountain.

- We've never had a top level recruiting class, so how does anyone expect to have a championship level team?

- We've never had a 2nd string that pushed the 1st string for playing time, so how does anyone expect to be able to withstand injuries over a long season?

- We've never had the money to spend on top level assistant(and head) coaching, so how does anyone expect individual players, individual groups of players, and the entire team to be coached and perform in a smart, efficient, mistake-free way?

- We've never had an truly unstoppable, marquee player, on either side of the ball, who could take over a football game.

- We've ony had 1 Quarterback in the history of the program, and it's no coincidence that he led our team to it's best season.

What needs to be done to "fix" the apparent problems? I don't know. How it needs to be handled though, is obvious to me: patience.

You are reframing the argument.

Actual argument: Skip Holtz has USF football regressing instead of progressing forward.

Your reframed argument: USF fans are upset they are not performing at elite levels.

Most are not upset about the amount of forward progress but the fact that we are regressing. Your post flat out ignores the backward movement of the team from a consistently bowl eligible team to a team that struggles to make the post season.