jchem1995 Posted August 24, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 51 Content Count: 3,355 Reputation: 1,099 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/02/2014 Share Posted August 24, 2023 …..and Pete Thamle has us in the waiting list as the bottom top ten on his ESPN report. Calls us …US( not C ) F. I m starting to not like Mike Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted August 24, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 7,004 Reputation: 2,260 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted August 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, 350_BULL said: I'm going to rephrase this question. If we didn't crap the bed in football the last handful of years would we be in the B12? No The Big 12 expansion decisions were made in 2021 I believe. We only had 2 losing seasons at that point. It's our facilities and fan support that held us back. We have made tremendous progress on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk00b Posted August 24, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 3,417 Reputation: 1,193 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/09/2010 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, jchem1995 said: I m starting to not like Mike Kelly. There are a lot of folks that are not liking VPMK right now. Let's hope the next couple months turn that frown upside down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 24, 2023 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,073 Reputation: 10,844 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted August 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, 350_BULL said: I'm going to rephrase this question. If we didn't crap the bed in football the last handful of years would we be in the B12? It's not just the last three years...the downward trajectory made us less and less appealing as we ignored our own success in the early years. So I don't blame Jeff Scott for the whole situation. He was just the next, and hopefully last, phase of decline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 24, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,713 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, hm101 said: No The Big 12 expansion decisions were made in 2021 I believe. We only had 2 losing seasons at that point. It's our facilities and fan support that held us back. We have made tremendous progress on both. This last call up we were held back, based on who went up, primarily because of our performance on the field the previous decade. The improved facilities and fan support will hopefully help if there is a next call up ..... and winning certainly wouldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Bull Posted August 24, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 454 Reputation: 196 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/08/2021 Share Posted August 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sk00b said: There are a lot of folks that are not liking VPMK right now. Let's hope the next couple months turn that frown upside down. Hoping against 5 years of precedence that says otherwise. He should have been terminated with the across-the-board extensions. Those were multi million dollar errors for which there was no reasonable justification. Still would have been too little too late though. Made the mistake of going to his twitter feed the other day expecting that he’d actually be commenting about football (making the case/advocating), but no, barely a mention all summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBull Posted August 24, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,458 Reputation: 1,428 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted August 24, 2023 I think it was our failure to win (or at least claim to have won) the natty that held us back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Bull Posted August 24, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 454 Reputation: 196 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/08/2021 Share Posted August 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, SilverBull said: I think it was our failure to win (or at least claim to have won) the natty that held us back. Ridiculous but it worked. I suspect USF will/would do something similar if we were to go undefeated but iced out of the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 24, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,484 Reputation: 2,938 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, puc86 said: At least we know that they will pay it forward and do the same thing for us but faster now that they are in the opposite position. I for one am shocked that the B12 did not consider the 97th most popular rivalry in all of FBS sports and how much more valuable we are as a package… I’m sorry but the writing was on the wall during the Harlan era with regards to big 12. Those spelling & grammar errors on the application didn’t help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBull Posted August 24, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,458 Reputation: 1,428 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 minute ago, 00Bull said: Ridiculous but it worked. Exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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