smazza Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 6/4/2023 at 7:08 AM, Friscobull said: Power 5, didn’t even know what AAU meant(besides amateur sports) until a few years ago. Considering this is a sports thread your results would be biased if we didn’t have so many people that aren’t afraid to stretch the truth. im wth you i love your honesty and outlaw's honesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Author Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 6/4/2023 at 2:14 PM, Ghostbuster said: No brainier, P5. AAU would have been there eventually. They're not inviting based on who ESPN tells them to take. Contrast that with the P5, where the musical chairs have pretty much been taken away at this point and we're SOL (nothing within our control). There's a 300+ million dollar gamble being played by the university that says not only can we quickly win enough to be attractive to a P5, but that a conference will have an opening for us. And I would not want to be on the losing side of that bet, making interest payments with AAC revenue. you cant blame espn for usf not being in a p5 we stink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbuster Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 730 Reputation: 438 Days Won: 4 Joined: 09/07/2010 Share Posted June 6, 2023 3 hours ago, smazza said: you cant blame espn for usf not being in a p5 we stink Not what I was saying. ESPN has supposedly been a big driving force helping conferences pick which team is more desirable. So I was saying it's harder to convince a conference and ESPN to promote us (now) than it is to convince the AAU to accept us. To be clear, I'm not saying the AAU is less work to get, but I am saying there are more reasons for a conference to deny us a spot and there are no quantifiable metrics for us to achieve that automatically qualify us for any P5. Let's say we turn things around the next 5 years and are conf champs 3/5 years (in football). Would that qualify us for the SEC? Would going undefeated in the new AAC for 'X' number of years *ever* matter to the SEC? Probably not... My point is the P5 has finite spots, and even if you accomplish great (fleeting) results in athletics, there are lots of reasons for you to be denied. The AAU, unlike the SEC, doesn't care if it already has Florida. There are no limits to the number of seats because you don't start taking money away from the others once you join. (Technically there are incentives for AAU to stand still, but with sports the TV contract *is* the lifeline; whereas AAU grants you access to more funding and grants, but it is not the sole source) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,119 Reputation: 4,625 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 hours ago, smazza said: you cant blame espn for usf What about the Big East collapse shenanigans? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,485 Reputation: 2,940 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted June 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, Rocky Style said: What about the Big East collapse shenanigans? Exactly lol. Basically big east had a tons of members going in all different directions lol. Glad USF is out of that mess. I’m pretty sure history will repeat itself for the big 12. Stay tuned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBulls84 Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 43 Content Count: 3,899 Reputation: 871 Days Won: 8 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted June 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said: Exactly lol. Basically big east had a tons of members going in all different directions lol. Glad USF is out of that mess. I’m pretty sure history will repeat itself for the big 12. Stay tuned That's ... not what he's getting at. ESPN was the driving force behind the Big East falling apart. The Big East turned down a big money deal from ESPN because they were set to potentially get more on the open market. So ESPN pushed the ACC to invite Big East schools to devalue the conference. BC's AD literally came out and said they were just doing what ESPN told them to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 hours ago, 00Bull said: I have a degree as well and would love nothing more than to reap some sweet benefit but I’m not holding my breath. In my 2 decades of work in corporate America, the words “AAU membership” have never been spoken, nor does anyone ask or actually care about collegiate schooling. Actually, now that we are discussing it, I can think of very few examples of college/alumni talk in the office being about anything other than sports. And what sweet benefit would you, as a fan, reap just by getting a P5 invite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,076 Reputation: 10,845 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Triple B said: And what sweet benefit would you, as a fan, reap just by getting a P5 invite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Brad said: ..... I thought it was pretty self explanatory. I guess i was wrong ....... maybe the word "benefit' is a sticking point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallyBull Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 3,685 Reputation: 1,186 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/19/2011 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Triple B said: ..... I thought it was pretty self explanatory. I guess i was wrong ....... maybe the word "benefit' is a sticking point? I would think that improved competition/match ups and better television options would qualify as benefits to the average fan? But maybe I'm misunderstanding your point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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