Outlaw Posted March 28, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,545 Reputation: 3,264 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, puc86 said: So to be clear the person that in five years got hired away to a better gig and then in the next five years got athletic director of the year is directionless garbage. While the guy that replaced him and has failed by every tangible measurable over the same five year period and wouldn’t be hired by any program anywhere is great and only G-d can judge him? Seems pretty based and clearly data driven. 100% spot on analysis. He is good at fundraising and giving out unearned extensions, but that does not translate to wins. Edited March 28, 2023 by Outlaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullcocky Posted March 28, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 10 Content Count: 329 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2019 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Harlan never had a shot at usf. We are a tiny school with few alumni, we are located in an undesirable location that is not known for producing athletic talent, in a state where there are no successful athletic programs, and less money than the little school for the poor... any expectations besides dead last is a pipe dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjlovecub Posted March 28, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 127 Content Count: 2,118 Reputation: 522 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/27/2007 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, puc86 said: So to be clear the person that in five years got hired away to a better gig and then in the next five years got athletic director of the year is directionless garbage. While the guy that replaced him and has failed by every tangible measurable over the same five year period and wouldn’t be hired by any program anywhere is great and only G-d can judge him? Seems pretty based and clearly data driven. When we turn it around, and we will, I guess your life is going to be pretty miserable at that point with nothing to bash. Bashing is easy by the way. You simply ignore everything that is right with VPMK because it doesn’t fit your narrative. I mean really what is the point? What do hope to accomplish? Honest Question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hm101 Posted March 28, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,998 Reputation: 2,257 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2023 very depressing not much to get excited about in USF land these days. i appreciate the stadium but literally no one will care if we keep winning 1 FBS game in 3 seasons and extending losing coaches. VPMK has sucked the life out of the programs due to a focus on everything else except wins. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted March 28, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,440 Reputation: 2,914 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted March 28, 2023 50 minutes ago, Bullcocky said: Harlan never had a shot at usf. We are a tiny school with few alumni, we are located in an undesirable location that is not known for producing athletic talent, in a state where there are no successful athletic programs, and less money than the little school for the poor... any expectations besides dead last is a pipe dream... It sure beats WHORLANDO… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted March 28, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,269 Reputation: 6,152 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, jjlovecub said: When we turn it around, and we will, I guess your life is going to be pretty miserable at that point with nothing to bash. Bashing is easy by the way. You simply ignore everything that is right with VPMK because it doesn’t fit your narrative. I mean really what is the point? What do hope to accomplish? Honest Question I want to make being a USF fan fun again and in five years time VPMK through his leadership has completely and totally destroyed that. Almost no one in life makes something progressively worse for five years and then miracles themselves to being successful. Is USF athletics better off today than it was five years ago? Our records were better, our competition was better and we were closer to realignment consideration than we are now. Every day that we move on with what has been clearly demonstrated as the wrong path makes it harder to get back on course. MK has had more time than he afforded CJS to follow his path to ruin and has failed far more spectacularly than CJS could have every dreamed of doing. The evil men do lives after them and the good is oft interred with their bones, so let this be for MK. Its been 5 years and if there was a path to success it would have presented itself in some fashion by now. If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind. In this age, the mere example of non-conformity, the mere refusal to bend the knee to custom, is itself a service. Precisely because the tyranny of opinion is such as to make eccentricity a reproach, it is desirable, in order to break through that tyranny, that people should be eccentric. Eccentricity has always abounded when and where strength of character has abounded; and the amount of eccentricity in a society has generally been proportional to the amount of genius, mental vigor, and moral courage which it contained. That so few now dare to be eccentric, marks the chief danger of the time. On Liberty! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted March 28, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,663 Reputation: 10,885 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, jjlovecub said: I mean really what is the point? What do hope to accomplish? Honest Question 32 minutes ago, puc86 said: I want to make being a USF fan fun again and in five years time VPMK through his leadership has completely and totally destroyed that. Almost no one in life makes something progressively worse for five years and then miracles themselves to being successful. Is USF athletics better off today than it was five years ago? Our records were better, our competition was better and we were closer to realignment consideration than we are now. Every day that we move on with what has been clearly demonstrated as the wrong path makes it harder to get back on course. MK has had more time than he afforded CJS to follow his path to ruin and has failed far more spectacularly than CJS could have every dreamed of doing. The evil men do lives after them and the good is oft interred with their bones, so let this be for MK. Its been 5 years and if there was a path to success it would have presented itself in some fashion by now. If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind. In this age, the mere example of non-conformity, the mere refusal to bend the knee to custom, is itself a service. Precisely because the tyranny of opinion is such as to make eccentricity a reproach, it is desirable, in order to break through that tyranny, that people should be eccentric. Eccentricity has always abounded when and where strength of character has abounded; and the amount of eccentricity in a society has generally been proportional to the amount of genius, mental vigor, and moral courage which it contained. That so few now dare to be eccentric, marks the chief danger of the time. 5 paragraphs full mostly of the usual nonsense, including the total avoidance of his question ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted March 28, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,269 Reputation: 6,152 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, Triple B said: 5 paragraphs of the usual nonsense, including the total avoidance of his question ... You really missed that the goal is to start a revolution in the fanbase that leads to regime change so that we can begin our journey towards success (as opposed to MK’s race away from it)? Also not a fan of Mill and Shakespeare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted March 28, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,269 Reputation: 6,152 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted March 28, 2023 MK bad Make USF fans sad Fire MK good USF Pres Should Better AD will be Happier You and Me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted March 28, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,663 Reputation: 10,885 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted March 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, puc86 said: You really missed that the goal is to start a revolution in the fanbase that leads to regime change He said honest question expecting an honest answer. You're not naive, nor stupid, enough to believe in that answer. Any revolution of that sort would need to start with someone who financially supports Athletics, probably in a huge way, not someone who doesn't support it in any way, no matter how verbose........ and it won't start on a message board, where reality takes a break at times concerning stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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