CousinRicky Posted November 6, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,719 Reputation: 5,860 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted November 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Agent_Danger said: Who cares? If you don't like USF, get out. If you still believe that kids go to schools to play football because they like the school, you are probably still putting teeth under your pillow and waiting for Santa to come down the chimney. Our QB was going to leave and could find nothing better so he came back. This is a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent_Danger Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 40 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/21/2017 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, CousinRicky said: If you still believe that kids go to schools to play football because they like the school, you are probably still putting teeth under your pillow and waiting for Santa to come down the chimney. Our QB was going to leave and could find nothing better so he came back. This is a business. I see that and accept that criticism. Sometimes you can build an audience by going to school locally, showing grit, and generating your legend. See Grothe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,076 Reputation: 10,845 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Ghostbuster said: I don't think booing the current team is going to make players want to stay. Please....nobody should boo or wear paper bags. It's bad enough for the players that they've lost this many games; they need support more than anyone. The coaches at least get paid through all this. Don't let Battie, Weaver and others feel embarrassed and upset by the fans. That will help them jump ship. Agreed. Been in this convo before. Many think this makes a difference. It's actually pretty sad. But sadness is all some have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted November 6, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,719 Reputation: 5,860 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted November 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Agent_Danger said: I see that and accept that criticism. Sometimes you can build an audience by going to school locally, showing grit, and generating your legend. See Grothe. It would be great if we could keep top local talent but we never kept top talent. CJL was able to motivate the 2nd level guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaBull Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 187 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 I have been a huge supporter of Mike Kelly but if this game doesn’t prompt drastic change I have to question is leadership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpa_bull1990 Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 35 Content Count: 336 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 I am not a big fan of Mike Kelly either. When hired, I heard about all his great connections in the ACC, but what has this guy accomplished? All of our major teams (football, basketball) are terrible. My alma mater seems to be the only University that accepts this level of ineptitude and incompetence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hightechbull Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 232 Content Count: 2,511 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Outlaw said: Sadly he will not quit even though he is failing because he wants to get paid. He got a contract and we will have to buy him out. I just do not see one positive case for keeping him an extra year after today unless, we win the next three games. I am in the boat we needed to move on from him after last year and find a coach that can actual improve the culture and the product on the field. I don't know if AD MK has the guts to fire this guy and name someone interim coach for the rest of the year. It seems he is lost and is taking blame for the program, but he still gets paid regardless of winning or losing. He seems to be a nice guy, but my lord everything I have seen from him shows is a terrible coach. People were making excuses and saying there was progress being made since he started but to be honest we are worse than when he started. The offense isn't good enough and the defense is the worst USF defense possibly FBS Defense I can remember watching. At this point I think CJL knows he has failed and does not know how to fix the issues. The next move is on AD and I hope he makes the right one by firing CJS and finding usf a decent coach. Is that a typo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,119 Reputation: 4,625 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted November 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Rex Havoc said: Those players are going to defect no matter if you fire him now, or 3 weeks from now. If we retain Battie, Weaver, or Horne I’d be shocked. Hmm. This is an interesting plotline. Maybe this would be a good reason for making certain pronouncements earlier rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,119 Reputation: 4,625 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ghostbuster said: I don't think booing the current team is going to make players want to stay. Please....nobody should boo or wear paper bags. It's bad enough for the players that they've lost this many games; they need support more than anyone. The coaches at least get paid through all this. Don't let Battie, Weaver and others feel embarrassed and upset by the fans. That will help them jump ship. I don't think any of us will, but many people will if the UCF game is ugly. And how the Skip situation went down was all these people were booing as he ran into the tunnel and then the chants turned into USF. It sent a very specific message. Edited November 6, 2022 by Rocky Style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 194 Content Count: 6,784 Reputation: 863 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Have there ever been college coaches who have voluntarily resigned (not fired / dismissed) 'cause they "weren't working out"? I would think the coaching mentality is such that there is always the belief that the ship can be righted with just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiitle more time and a change of staff, change of scheme, tweak the philosophy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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