I Want to Personally Thank CJS & Staff

[Rocky Style]

2 hours ago, zarnozdabull said:

No way.

A 1-11 season would mean 1 FBS wins in 3 years. 
No way you can justify that - or a 4th year - by any means. 

We'll see how things shake out, and then we can take a pulse.  Right now they are doing everything right so let's keep the momentum going.

[USFRaider]

11 hours ago, FazaUSF said:

Yes, particularly in comparison to Taggart's years 1 and 2 and Strong's years 2 and 3. CJS year 1 was also still a struggle to turn the character of the locker room around. Last year, some players were more engaged than others, and the team did show some cohesion, but it just wasn't an exceptional amount nor was it thoroughly the entire team. Some individuals stood out as giving a high level of effort, like Jennings, Cecil, and Grier. The absolute lowest point was the Wisconsin loss, when players on the sidelines audibly said things about how little they cared, how stupid the coaching staff was, and how they were just there there for gettin paid, which I can only imagine must have been a reference to their scholarship (pretty sure this was pre-NIL and nobody would have offered them deals anyway).

Show that effort, keep heart, invest in the brotherhood... reflect the values of the school we love, and I'll follow 'em through a wall.

I am certainly happy you aren’t making any coaching decisions if you would be satisfied with a 1-11 record. 

[USFRaider]

3 hours ago, zarnozdabull said:

No way.

A 1-11 season would mean 1 FBS wins in 3 years. 
No way you can justify that - or a 4th year - by any means. 

As long as the team shows heart, winning is irrelevant. 

[Triple B]

4 hours ago, USFRaider said:

As long as the team shows heart, winning is irrelevant. 

Sounds almost as silly as ******** and moaning after a 3 td win, doesn't it ...... ?

[Rocky Style]

This game can't get here soon enough!

[Grateful Dad]

7 hours ago, Rocky Style said:

This game can't get here soon enough!

I agree!  And I can't remember the last time I thought that.  Falling in love again with my team.

[BullyPulpit]

Getting blatantly screwed by the refs in Gainesville will galvanize this team. It lit a fire in the coaches and that loss may have been as good for us in the long run as a win. (Of course, I would want the win and the win would have been monumental) but we can just as easily use the loss as a rallying cry to do bigger things this year and beyond! 

[Friscobull]

On 9/22/2022 at 6:40 AM, FazaUSF said:

I am lauding them for things they can't fake. I hear you, we don't know whether it turns in to wins later in the year. But that team and staff's behavior was exactly what I'd been looking for to know a turnaround is in progress. Whether the game planning process can be established consistently is far from being known, and whether the staff can harness and maintain that over time is nowhere near proven.

I'm also not looking for a "win, now!" result. I want to see all the intangibles that great teams and staffs exude, and I expect more wins will follow. But I want to see that culture established and then maintained. I have no doubt the wins will follow, but I don't want wins "now" in favor of leaving trash in their wake, such as the Urban Meyer way. Yes I'll invoke it for once; I want to see the wins and the staff and the culture hang around for years like a Clemson. Once we get the right staff, my hope is there will be some continuity (usually via the head coach) and the success is maintained over time with some ebbs and flows each year which are natural in any organization. 

You don’t want the Urban Meyer way which has resulted in multiple National championships, you are ok with with one win as long as the culture is good?  Trust me, if they don’t win another game the culture will not be good.  Winning breeds winning, cultures improve with winning, locker rooms become closer with winning.  we need to start actually winning some games soon or this program is dead IMO.

[USFbulls24]

On 9/22/2022 at 8:42 AM, FazaUSF said:

Wins don't come out of thin air. The foundations have to be set. I expressed appreciation that we are finally showing more than thin air. Its not yet wins. But we are finally starting to show significant signs of things that lead to wins.

Also, representing our school, our character, and our fans is not accomplished solely by winning. We all want wins. I believe we need good reflections on the people and the school we collectively love. Taggart won but in my humble opinion he was not a great personal reflection of what this school, its Athletics program, and our fans stand for. I believe we need a winning character; wins do not make the character- its the other way around. Leavitt's first team had a winning culture after a year of practicing without playing a single game to know whether they were winners. That winning culture was reflected in immediate competitive success starting the first season they played in games. 

Forgive me, but the bigger picture encompasses more than a win here and a win there. The trends are finally in the right direction. The wins will likely follow, though they aren't a guarantee, they're just much more likely with the right intangibles in the mix.

Of course foundations have to be set. The man will have made almost $6 million in the last 3 seasons from coaching USF. He is paid very well to figure out a way to win some football games which he's yet to do. Jesus Christ could be the coach of our USF Bulls and could be handing out bread/wine to the all before and after games, donates his entire salary to charity, treats the opponents as if they're royalty while healing all fans in the stands, but if he's not winning football games sorry bro, gotta go. Willie Taggart got NFL talent to USF. Should we go down the list? D'Ernest Johnson, Marlon Mack, Rodney Adams, Marques Valdez-Scantling, Mitch Wilcox, Deadrin Senat, Bruce Hector, and the best QB our program has seen in Quinton Flowers. On behalf of all Bulls fan, I am sorry you had to suffer through that era. If you're able to get happiness out of all things that are non wins when it comes to football god bless ya. 

[USFRaider]

Ouch.