bullsfan27 Posted June 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 193 Content Count: 5,262 Reputation: 547 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Leavitt had only 2 losing seasons while he was here and went 3-2 in bowl games. Outside the inaugural season and 2004 he won at least 6 games every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted June 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, BDYZR said: CCS walked in and one of his first comments was absolute idiocy. GO BULLS! I know which one you speak of. At first, I thought it was an attempt at humor. Sadly, it was not. I have thought about this. If you have an average or worse offense, I get why a defensive minded coach might think that. When you are able to score almost every time you have the ball, who cares if it is only a couple of minutes or less. I would see it as my defense needs to be conditoned and able to step up while being allowed some wiggle room to be able to commit 2 or 3 big mistakes in a game which would , in effect, not be all that costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted June 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Mission9 said: I know which one you speak of. At first, I thought it was an attempt at humor. Sadly, it was not. I have thought about this. If you have an average or worse offense, I get why a defensive minded coach might think that. When you are able to score almost every time you have the ball, who cares if it is only a couple of minutes or less. I would see it as my defense needs to be conditoned and able to step up while being allowed some wiggle room to be able to commit 2 or 3 big mistakes in a game which would , in effect, not be all that costly. It's worked in the B12 for years. Now, I don't profess, like some, to know all there is to know about football, but I think the whole idea of offense is to score as many points as possible in the allotted 60 minutes. And please, don't even get me started on the "prevent defense." I think that's what I like about our new DC. Kick'em in the teeth until they fall... And then kick'em in the balls. GO BULLS! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted June 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve said: This was way before my time, so I’m sorry if this is a dumb question or if anyone takes offense…was he that great? I know we had a couple of good seasons under him, but he doesn’t seem like someone that built a strong foundation, so I question his greatness. I mean, it all fell apart after he left. I saw Taggart have some success and I feel like he could’ve done some great things if he stayed. I’ve only been here as a student & fan for one almost-great season (2017) and it’s been downhill since then. I do not think anyone thought he was "great". I think the debate is whether or not USF would easily be able to not only pinpoint someone who could do better but actuallly pay for it. Some erroneously thought he could be replaced with the greatest of ease. He also had shown loyalty to the university (earlier) which is not all that normal these days. Since USF was always moving up in class during his time, he actually only had a couple of seasons where he had a full roster of recruits from the level he was playing at. I see it as he overachieved in that sense. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted June 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted June 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, BDYZR said: It's worked in the B12 for years. Now, I don't profess, like some, to know all there is to know about football, but I think the whole idea of offense is to score as many points as possible in the allotted 60 minutes. And please, don't even get me started on the "prevent defense." I think that's what I like about our new DC. Kick'em in the teeth until they fall... And then kick'em in the balls. GO BULLS! First of all, anyone who professes to know everything probably can be dismissed. You are absolutely correct about the object being to score as much as possible. You are also correct about defense. The prevent defense only makes sense if you are up say 37-15 with a few minutes to go. Don't let anyone get deep or out of bounds. One score prevent defense (say up 21-14) only prevents you from winning. Like I said, if I am a defensive coach and the offense is not all that dynamic, I would rather a slower approach. With Flowers at QB, USF was usually good for 30 plus and I did not care how fast they scored, only cared that they scored. It would be up to me and my defense to ensure we stop the other team enough to win. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted June 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 40 Content Count: 1,241 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2003 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Hopefully the next departure is us when we fold the program 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 17, 2022 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,732 Reputation: 10,959 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Mission9 said: I know which one you speak of. At first, I thought it was an attempt at humor. Sadly, it was not. I have thought about this. If you have an average or worse offense, I get why a defensive minded coach might think that. When you are able to score almost every time you have the ball, who cares if it is only a couple of minutes or less. I would see it as my defense needs to be conditoned and able to step up while being allowed some wiggle room to be able to commit 2 or 3 big mistakes in a game which would , in effect, not be all that costly. I fully understand the uproar when he came in saying what he did but not sure why it's still being bandied about with 20/20 hindsight ..... it worked. Q still averaged 38 points a game, with the total offense per game being higher than 2016, and the wiggle room was actually larger in 2017 with the cushion averaging 15 points a game compared to 12 points a game in 2016. Chuck's final 2 years were a disaster but trying to diss him for 2017, just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk00b Posted June 17, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 3,417 Reputation: 1,193 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/09/2010 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, DontPushMe said: Hopefully the next departure is us when we fold the program Haha this guy never dissapoints. I'll give you credit for consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted June 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, DontPushMe said: Hopefully the next departure is us when we fold the program 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 18, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,087 Reputation: 10,858 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted June 18, 2022 And for the record, this is a thread about the three teams departing the AAC. That would be: Cincinnati UCF Houston Not USF, unfortunately. So please bring it back on to topic, join one of many threads with this same criticism, or start a new one. We can't have too many Jeff Scott threads. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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