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[Cat941]

 

[Cat941]

Rumor: Pac-12 anticipated to pursue expansion very soon

FLYWAREAGLE.COM

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Sportskeeda's Farouk Yusuf claimed that the Pac-12 is

"Numerous schools from the Group of Five conferences are expected to lobby for considerations in their quest to achieve Power Five status. The league is projected to primarily assess teams from the Mountain West Conference and the American Athletic Conference."

[Peatearpan]

4 hours ago, Cat941 said:

Rumor: Pac-12 anticipated to pursue expansion very soon

FLYWAREAGLE.COM

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Sportskeeda's Farouk Yusuf claimed that the Pac-12 is

"Numerous schools from the Group of Five conferences are expected to lobby for considerations in their quest to achieve Power Five status. The league is projected to primarily assess teams from the Mountain West Conference and the American Athletic Conference."

No way Power status is retained in this scenario.

[UCF_rustbucket]

49 minutes ago, Peatearpan said:

No way Power status is retained in this scenario.

Exactly. Look at how the P4 have treated the PAC2 so far. No invite to any P4 conferences, stripped away autonomy status, voted to go from 6 autobids to 5. 

If they don't respect these 2 leftover PAC teams as peers, adding 6 to 12 G5s won't fool anyone into treating it like a P5 again. The PAC as a power conference is dead. If it rebuilds or merges with the MWC, it'll be as a G5 just like the old Big East/AAC.

[DontPushMe]

5 hours ago, Cat941 said:

Rumor: Pac-12 anticipated to pursue expansion very soon

FLYWAREAGLE.COM

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Sportskeeda's Farouk Yusuf claimed that the Pac-12 is

"Numerous schools from the Group of Five conferences are expected to lobby for considerations in their quest to achieve Power Five status. The league is projected to primarily assess teams from the Mountain West Conference and the American Athletic Conference."

We should be begging them to get us out of this **** hole conference. 

 

Won't be power 5 but it also won't be a rebranded sun belt

[WoolyBully]

1 hour ago, DontPushMe said:

rebranded sun belt

Sure it will. You're either in the G40 (or whatever the final SEC B1G amalgam is going to be called) or you're not. Doesn't matter if it's spelled CUSA, AAC, Mountain West or whatever, the point is, you're not in-with-the-in-crowd. What difference does it make if you're not playing UAB, Rice and Tulsa but are playing SDSU, Coastal Carolina or Old Dominion.  You're either on the good side of the velvet rope, or you're not. A watered-down ACC relegated to the wrong side of the velvet rope is no different than any other non-invitee to the Grande Deuce. 

"Meanwhile, PressBox DC's Jim Williams suggested that the ACC's contingency plan will be to add Memphis, Tulane, Wazzu, Oregon State, UConn, and USF to make up for the likely losses of Clemson, FSU, UNC, and whichever other schools leave the conference.

Both scenarios are simpler moves than resurrecting the Pac-12. The former Power conference would essentially be relegating itself to the G5 ranks by bringing on predominantly G5 schools, and that's not going to land the conference a better TV deal than the one that had USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Utah, and the two Arizona schools (UA, ASU)."

https://flywareagle.com/posts/rumor-pac-12-anticipated-pursue-expansion-very-soon

Edited May 19 by WoolyBully
text & url

[MMW]

6 hours ago, WoolyBully said:

Sure it will. You're either in the G40 (or whatever the final SEC B1G amalgam is going to be called) or you're not. Doesn't matter if it's spelled CUSA, AAC, Mountain West or whatever, the point is, you're not in-with-the-in-crowd. What difference does it make if you're not playing UAB, Rice and Tulsa but are playing SDSU, Coastal Carolina or Old Dominion.  You're either on the good side of the velvet rope, or you're not. A watered-down ACC relegated to the wrong side of the velvet rope is no different than any other non-invitee to the Grande Deuce. 

"Meanwhile, PressBox DC's Jim Williams suggested that the ACC's contingency plan will be to add Memphis, Tulane, Wazzu, Oregon State, UConn, and USF to make up for the likely losses of Clemson, FSU, UNC, and whichever other schools leave the conference.

Both scenarios are simpler moves than resurrecting the Pac-12. The former Power conference would essentially be relegating itself to the G5 ranks by bringing on predominantly G5 schools, and that's not going to land the conference a better TV deal than the one that had USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Utah, and the two Arizona schools (UA, ASU)."

https://flywareagle.com/posts/rumor-pac-12-anticipated-pursue-expansion-very-soon

I agree with this but the velvet rope is determined solely on fan support, not winning, not OCS, AAU.

As a thought exercise imagine a team that can packs every stadium and jacks the ratings of every game win or lose.  They will get all the attention whether deserved or not.  Think Notre Dame on steroids. 

That team can write it's own ticket.  It will sell more t-shirts, bring in more revenue, more eyeballs on screens etc. 

This is why I think teams should be creating a better game day experience for their students & fans - like building an OCS. They should be doing everything possible to increase their fan base.  Create a carnival like atmosphere where people come to enjoy themselves regardless of the outcome.  

Pictured below is that NOT happening.  The people sitting in the stands are dedicated and deserve a lot of credit, but they are there to see a team win and quite often leave disappointed.  I know because I was one of them. We probably all are. 

On campus USF can bring in a band or host a frisbee contest or face painting for little kids.

Would you invite a program that was only able to generate this kind of buzz?

 

[ForestBull]

1 hour ago, MMW said:

I agree with this but the velvet rope is determined solely on fan support, not winning, not OCS, AAU.

As a thought exercise imagine a team that can packs every stadium and jacks the ratings of every game win or lose.  They will get all the attention whether deserved or not.  Think Notre Dame on steroids. 

That team can write it's own ticket.  It will sell more t-shirts, bring in more revenue, more eyeballs on screens etc. 

This is why I think teams should be creating a better game day experience for their students & fans - like building an OCS. They should be doing everything possible to increase their fan base.  Create a carnival like atmosphere where people come to enjoy themselves regardless of the outcome.  

Pictured below is that NOT happening.  The people sitting in the stands are dedicated and deserve a lot of credit, but they are there to see a team win and quite often leave disappointed.  I know because I was one of them. We probably all are. 

On campus USF can bring in a band or host a frisbee contest or face painting for little kids.

Would you invite a program that was only able to generate this kind of buzz?

 

Yes because we have seen what we could be in a "big boy" conference. 

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, MMW said:

Would you invite a program that was only able to generate this kind of buzz?

 

[Cubanbull]

That P2 expansion should had been done while they still had an automatic CFP spot. Probably to late now.

The current tv contract the P2 has with ace etc is reported to be around 6-8 million. Not much different than what USF gets currently from AAC. The P2 gets 3.6 million per year from CFP, USF and ACC will het 1.8 million. I don’t think the difference  in payouts to CFP access as is currently is enough to get USF to move.

So for the P2 expansion to be successful they must at least get a tv contract in the 10-15 million range. Anything lower than that would mean the league has to get better CFP access or payments.