DontPushMe Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 40 Content Count: 1,241 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2003 Share Posted August 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said: Let’s say both the big ten & SEC take teams from big 12 & ACC and then ACC is looking to backfill with a few Florida schools. Do you still prefer the big 12 over ACC?? I see the ACC coming out as 3rd best conference I'd take a depleted acc over any big 12. I don't want to be associated with ucf ever again. It's a big reason we are in the place we are now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,501 Reputation: 2,951 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, MaltLiquorBull said: I was so pumped for that season. After all, we had the best transfer class in the nation. Yeah I got hyped basically from reading all the other USF fans hype leading up the BYU game lol. Now I’m just going to expect the worst & hope for the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,045 Reputation: 1,032 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted August 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, DontPushMe said: I'd take a depleted acc over any big 12. I don't want to be associated with ucf ever again. It's a big reason we are in the place we are now. UCF is not the reason that we are where we are. It all comes down to our AD and coaching hires. That and having waited to long to built an OCS. If we did what Cincy, SMU, Houston, and UCF have done in the last decade I have zero doubt that we would be in the Big 12 right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted August 25, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,641 Reputation: 3,327 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted August 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, belgianbull said: UCF is not the reason that we are where we are. It all comes down to our AD and coaching hires. That and having waited to long to built an OCS. If we did what Cincy, SMU, Houston, and UCF have done in the last decade I have zero doubt that we would be in the Big 12 right now. The ocs is not a guarantee or necessary for p5 football. There are p5 teams without an ocs and even have national championships . The ocs is a long term strategy that tried to get more fans in the stands. It does not determine if your team can win enough, beat top 25 teams, and win championships to get called up to p5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Brad said: Some fans are more comfortable with complacency then with accountability. More comfortable with a feeling of victimhood than a feeling of failure. Some want to beat Alabama ten out of ten times (naively) while others have accepted, warmly, their lot in life as a fan of a middling mid-major that tries. Fans can be status quo embracers, nothing wrong with that for them. Others expect more and find it difficult to embrace the current status of the program. Failure feels different to different people and people react differently to it. It's okay. We're all types. Perfect answer ↓ to this post ↑ 17 minutes ago, Mission9 said: I know this wasn't directed at me personally but I would argue some of us don't fall within those parameters either. I will skip over my bemusement of the abject failure of the program and contempt for those running the show the last few years since we have moved forward with a replacement at the helm. The other issue, being left out of realignment, I can be unhappy about what is going on but find it hard to rationalize that USF could have done anything to beat out the schools which got the callup, with one exception. For the sake of decency I will not mention that one university. In being angry about not being in place of the one exception, we should realize there really is no contesting the fact that we have made multiple errors beginning in 2010 which snowballed into what we have now. Any choices made in the future of the program should only be made with USF, USF alumni, and USF fans interest and not be made to please the local media (whose influence is depreciating much to my joy). But what has happened has happened, can't change it. Can't ignore it, but dwelling on it won't change it one iota. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted August 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, belgianbull said: UCF is not the reason that we are where we are. It all comes down to our AD and coaching hires. That and having waited to long to built an OCS. If we did what Cincy, SMU, Houston, and UCF have done in the last decade I have zero doubt that we would be in the Big 12 right now. 1 minute ago, Outlaw said: The ocs is not a guarantee or necessary for p5 football. There are p5 teams without an ocs and even have national championships . The ocs is a long term strategy that tried to get more fans in the stands. It does not determine if your team can win enough, beat top 25 teams, and win championships to get called up to p5. I think most people agree that waiting to long to build the OCS was another one of the mistakes made by USF. I believe that @belgianbullplainly wrote that "It all comes down to our AD and coaching hires." I would also add that every one from the prez to the BoT are equally responsible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lewis Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 2,921 Reputation: 2,352 Days Won: 33 Joined: 09/25/2013 Share Posted August 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Outlaw said: The ocs is not a guarantee or necessary for p5 football. No, it's not a guarantee, but it certainly helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUpperHand Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 2,035 Reputation: 1,410 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/29/2007 Share Posted August 25, 2023 52 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said: I can’t think of a worse way to open up the season than last year against BYU. Seems like the weather was trying to warn us all lol I can think of a worse way to open up a season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,918 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Bull Matrix said: Exactly!! I’m not going to be all doom & gloom over our situation. It is not life or death. It is sports. So yes the AAU & OCS are more valuable to me as a USF fan than the power whatever they call themselves now club… Sounds like you are hedging now that your ACC prediction fell flat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBull Posted August 25, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 45 Content Count: 473 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/22/2004 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Realignment fatigue is setting in….hoping something happens soon…anything…just want to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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