Brad Posted October 17, 2021 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,043 Reputation: 10,833 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Others suggest he should have just run a different play Or, others say run it should have been a Mangham from play under center Or, others say QB sneak. And, of course, a punt. I'm not sure how many would agree with a punt with that much time left and the ability to slice right through our defense. I think it was pretty clear we were going to need to score again, not give them the ball again. Regardless, I guess all the coaches out there have different thoughts on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 17, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,613 Content Count: 74,618 Reputation: 10,871 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, hightechbull said: Scott should have taken the safe move and punted the ball. Which he got excoriated for doing in earlier games ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 17, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,613 Content Count: 74,618 Reputation: 10,871 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brad said: Others suggest he should have just run a different play Or, others say run it should have been a Mangham from play under center Or, others say QB sneak. And, of course, a punt. I'm not sure how many would agree with a punt with that much time left and the ability to slice right through our defense. I think it was pretty clear we were going to need to score again, not give them the ball again. Regardless, I guess all the coaches out there have different thoughts on it. No problem at all with going for it but thought the QB sneak may have been better, depending on exactly how much was needed. Still, Mangham is a stud and with a direct snap, not having to worry about a hand off, 1 yard should have more than doable in 2 attempts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted October 17, 2021 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,498 Reputation: 3,233 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted October 17, 2021 CJS keeps the longest fbs losing streak alive this week in fbs football . 0 and infinity mode ready. I thought he was building a winning culture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted October 17, 2021 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,498 Reputation: 3,233 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted October 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Triple B said: No problem at all with going for it but thought the QB sneak may have been better, depending on exactly how much was needed. Still, Mangham is a stud and with a direct snap, not having to worry about a hand off, 1 yard should have more than doable in 2 attempts. Why waste a timeout to run the exact same play ? They knew the play and got stuffed by the exact same player . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 17, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,613 Content Count: 74,618 Reputation: 10,871 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Outlaw said: Why waste a timeout to run the exact same play ? They knew the play and got stuffed by the exact same player . The timeout was probably more to make a decision whether to go for it or not ..... and I guess we could have tried some trickeration there but short yardage situations like that are usually a matter of which players impose their will over the others and it didn't go in our favor. Like I said, if it was only a foot or so, I may have opted for a qb sneak ...... but, does Timmy ever work from under center? I honestly don't remember without going back and looking at games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk00b Posted October 17, 2021 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 3,405 Reputation: 1,186 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/09/2010 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: Why waste a timeout to run the exact same play ? They knew the play and got stuffed by the exact same player . This. You can't call a timeout and run the same play! You have a running QB. At least try an option to the outside or something. Or punt it. I'm fine with punting over handing them the W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted October 17, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,065 Reputation: 4,579 Days Won: 38 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Triple B said: Which he got excoriated for doing in earlier games ... Depends on the feel at the time, but I would cosign anytime with this defense we want to go for it to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted October 17, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Brad said: Others suggest he should have just run a different play Or, others say run it should have been a Mangham from play under center Or, others say QB sneak. And, of course, a punt. I'm not sure how many would agree with a punt with that much time left and the ability to slice right through our defense. I think it was pretty clear we were going to need to score again, not give them the ball again. Regardless, I guess all the coaches out there have different thoughts on it. I really cannot disagree with the choice given the lack of consistent defensive prowess on our part. That said, I sit on the southwest side of the stadium and could not tell if it was a short yard (i.e. inches) or a long yard. That makes a difference to me as I would have only gone for it on a short yard. Also, I certainly would rather have a play like that start under center in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleBull Posted October 17, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 772 Reputation: 171 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/17/2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Sk00b said: This. You can't call a timeout and run the same play! You have a running QB. At least try an option to the outside or something. Or punt it. I'm fine with punting over handing them the W. I may get blasted for this, but Timmy wasn’t a running high school quarterback. That is what we want him to be. He attempted 654 passes and ran 254 times. 72% of the time he attempted a pass. In a podcast I listened to, they mentioned that his high school coach also has stated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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