cmhatter Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) USF admin needs to accept that the UCF model worked. They went with a “build it and they will come” model and combined that with loud ADs / coaches. They kept UCF in the news (good or bad) and built their brand. Proclaiming that they won a national championship was a marketing masterclass. It was comical but everyone in the entire country recognized UCF after that. Everyone. USF blew it in a major way and now they have to take UCFs playbook and execute. Build the facilities needed to compete. Create a real college football experience on campus. Invest in marketing. Engage the media. Edited September 4, 2021 by cmhatter 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,157 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, cmhatter said: USF admin needs to accept that the UCF model worked. They went with a “build it and they will come” model and combined that with loud ADs / coaches. They kept UCF in the news (good or bad) and built their brand. Proclaiming that they won a national championship was a marketing masterclass. It was comical but everyone in the entire country recognized UCF after that. Everyone. USF blew it in a major way and now they have to take UCFs playbook and execute. Build the facilities needed to compete. Create a really college football experience on campus. Invest in marketing. Engage the media. That sounds hard but if you just give $100 more a month that will somehow miracle itself into being the first impactful dollars, ignore the other money you gave or have given because no one can manage to win a single game with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, puc86 said: That sounds hard but if you just give $100 more a month that will somehow miracle itself into being the first impactful dollars, ignore the other money you gave or have given because no one can manage to win a single game with that Yeah I’m not doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,157 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, cmhatter said: Yeah I’m not doing that Well clearly that’s the reason we can’t be successful and it’s alumni like us that are too blame are a x(y+$1000) away from success at all times. X equals current donors and y equals current giving amount so if everyone just gave all the money they have we would only need them to give $1000 more than that before we would need them to then give another $1000. I don’t understand how people don’t get it and are so selfish as to expect a limit or some form of ROI. The more you stuffer the more it shows you really care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monktified Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 20 Content Count: 170 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/2014 Share Posted September 4, 2021 What is the going rate for an OCS that holds say 42K-48K fans? 90M ? I would think that the money from ticket sales, concession and merchandise would help recoup that money very quickly. That's how to show us that you truly want to put a product out there for the fans and make it our own. Not some rented out TSA experience. Yes its an NFL stadium but it is not the same experience for the players or the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 4, 2021 51 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: It created expectations that could not be met. I know I know we loved it when it happened but it created a standard that was unrealistic for a young program. Indeed, it indirectly got Leavitt fired because a few donors thought we had peeked under him. We were not ready and it created an untenable situation. Certainly in the long run it got us nothing. Worse. It created illusions/delusions of how easy it was to be in the upper levels of college football. We had very little "sweat equity" in the process and people had no idea what it really takes at that level ....... $$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,076 Reputation: 10,845 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Triple B said: Worse. It created illusions/delusions of how easy it was to be in the upper levels of college football. We had very little "sweat equity" in the process and people had no idea what it really takes at that level ....... $$$$$$ Delusions for who, Trip? Generally speaking of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsfan27 Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 193 Content Count: 5,261 Reputation: 547 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Everything i've heard is an ocs will cost around $300 million. We should have built the IPF back in 2005 and the ocs afterwards when we had the base to do it. Doug and Judy made a big mistake and we have never recovered from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, Triple B said: Worse. It created illusions/delusions of how easy it was to be in the upper levels of college football. We had very little "sweat equity" in the process and people had no idea what it really takes at that level ....... $$$$$$ Absolutely correct…we were plucked from nowhere and that is where we were returned, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 4, 2021 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,076 Reputation: 10,845 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Triple B said: Worse. It created illusions/delusions of how easy it was to be in the upper levels of college football. We had very little "sweat equity" in the process and people had no idea what it really takes at that level ....... $$$$$$ Delusions for who, Trip? Generally speaking of course. It might hurt to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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