Triple B Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, WhoRUSF said: Let's remember that the constitution says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. So naturally, any gun law is impeding on gun rights. A right that we naturally all had is being restricted. I won't try to debate gun rights with you since this is TBP, but can we agree that these two quotes essentially mean the same thing? A debate on gun rights is integral in the discussion of those two quotes so we'll just have to agree to disagree about them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSF Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 1,117 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/29/2016 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, Triple B said: A debate on gun rights is integral in the discussion of those two quotes so we'll just have to agree to disagree about them ... I'll take that as you prefer gun control measures and that's fine. Seems reasonable even if I disagree. I think the overall point is that BLM talks about politics throughout its site. They cheer on Democratic wins in 2018 Senate races. This. Is. Not. A. Neutral. Organization. I just find it to be overtly shunning to people who feel differently about things nothing to do with race. DeldaBull even said the other day that they Trojan Horse beliefs into movements like BLM and dilute the message with political opinions. I would find it in good taste for a moderator who says that we are against having politics on the board to also be against the school showing their politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,919 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, WhoRUSF said: I'll take that as you prefer gun control measures and that's fine. Seems reasonable even if I disagree. I think the overall point is that BLM talks about politics throughout its site. They cheer on Democratic wins in 2018 Senate races. This. Is. Not. A. Neutral. Organization. I just find it to be overtly shunning to people who feel differently about things nothing to do with race. DeldaBull even said the other day that they Trojan Horse beliefs into movements like BLM and dilute the message with political opinions. I would find it in good taste for a moderator who says that we are against having politics on the board to also be against the school showing their politics. Trips will only moderate if he disagrees with the political position, if he agrees he becomes the biggest cheerleader, some may refer to him as a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 11, 2020 If we win more I think it’s great, if we continue our losing ways I think it’s dumb. I am consistent. We could recruit prisons and partial qualifiers for all I care so I certainly can’t bring myself to care about people doing what they think is the right thing, as long as they win. Winning is the only duty of care owed to me by USF athletics and they should aim to always do things to get to that objective, if something doesn’t move the need in the winning or losing direction I am at best politely indifferent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,919 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, puc86 said: If we win more I think it’s great, if we continue our losing ways I think it’s dumb. I am consistent. We could recruit prisons and partial qualifiers for all I care so I certainly can’t bring myself to care about people doing what they think is the right thing, as long as they win. Winning is the only duty of care owed to me by USF athletics and they should aim to always do things to get to that objective, if something doesn’t move the need in the winning or losing direction I am at best politely indifferent. In the words of the late Al Davis, “just win baby”. I will ignore the rest of the noise, Go Bulls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSF Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 1,117 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/29/2016 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Friscobull said: Trips will only moderate if he disagrees with the political position, if he agrees he becomes the biggest cheerleader, some may refer to him as a hypocrite. I have no problems with trip and never have. This whole thing is unique and I can totally understand where a lot of us are coming from. The best thing we can do right now is call balls and strikes. BLM is blatantly political. I'm supposed to just sit there and enjoy pro socialist tags? Edited September 11, 2020 by WhoRUSF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, Friscobull said: In the words of the late Al Davis, “just win baby”. I will ignore the rest of the noise, Go Bulls! Yep. If you win every thing you do is great and if you lose everything you do is dumb. Sports are pretty cut and dry and winning isn’t the most important thing it’s the only thing. If people want to take a hard look at Athletes I think if they put a sticker on their helmet or take a knee is probably one of the least objectionable things they may find. If I can ignore Big Ben being a **** head as long as he wins Super Bowls and I can find AB’s behavior endearing while he is with the Steelers I’ve pretty much painted myself into the I don’t care what you do as long as you win corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,919 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, puc86 said: Yep. If you win every thing you do is great and if you lose everything you do is dumb. Sports are pretty cut and dry and winning isn’t the most important thing it’s the only thing. If people want to take a hard look at Athletes I think if they put a sticker on their helmet or take a knee is probably one of the least objectionable things they may find. If I can ignore Big Ben being a **** head as long as he wins Super Bowls and I can find AB’s behavior endearing while he is with the Steelers I’ve pretty much painted myself into the I don’t care what you do as long as you win corner. It is the only thing, their voice is heard when they are successful and if they lose they will be wildly ignored, hopefully these guys realize that and focus most of their energies on winning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southshore26 Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 4,442 Reputation: 161 Days Won: 9 Joined: 09/30/2007 Share Posted September 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, Friscobull said: Trips will only moderate if he disagrees with the political position, if he agrees he becomes the biggest cheerleader, some may refer to him as a hypocrite. Luckily he's not the only one here with those powers.... others of us can also remove snarky comments that aren't necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted September 11, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,919 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted September 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, WhoRUSF said: I have no problems with trip and never have. This whole thing is unique and I can totally understand where a lot of us are coming from. The best thing we can do right now is call balls and strikes. BLM is blatantly political. I'm supposed to just sit there and enjoy pro socialist tags? I don’t either, the board would struggle to survive without Trips and yahoos like myself could disappear and the pen would not miss a beat and some would argue it would improve. Politics is part of sports whether we like it or not, we will all respond to this however we see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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