Oracle: Time to retire Numbers

[JTrue]

Just now, flsportsfan83 said:

No way on JPP. he played 1 year here. Marlon Mack is a solid maybe in my book. I would honestly say Andre Hall was a better USF Bull than Mack but it is close. 

JPP is a hard pass. 

[flsportsfan83]

I just looked at Hall's numbers. They are not as good as Macks, but he carried the 2 teams he was on, got us to our first ever bowl. I'd say both are pretty equaly worthy.

[NewEnglandBull]

You should only have your number retired unless you can also donate $1.5 mil to the IPF. 

[Ghostbuster]

1 hour ago, Nick Carroll said:

What are your thoughts?

I think we wait until we have an OCS to display the retired numbers at. 

 

http://www.usforacle.com/2020/02/19/its-time-to-retire-a-few-numbers/ 

Absolutely should not even be talking about retiring numbers.  That starts approaching 'build O'Leary a statue' levels of desperation, in order to appear more important than you are.  The players mentioned all did great things for us, but someone needs to win a Heisman/natty/player of the year type of accolade aaaand go on to be a great player/coach after USF aaaand continue being a staunch USF supporter/donor/advocate.

(In case you can't tell I think number retiring should be reserved for the most extreme of circumstances.)

43 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Wow any semblance of respect I had for the Rays just hit the crapper...

Geez, if that's all it takes wait til you hear what the Red Sox (and Astros) did these past few years.

[NewEnglandBull]

12 minutes ago, Ghostbuster said:

Absolutely should not even be talking about retiring numbers.  That starts approaching 'build O'Leary a statue' levels of desperation, in order to appear more important than you are.  The players mentioned all did great things for us, but someone needs to win a Heisman/natty/player of the year type of accolade aaaand go on to be a great player/coach after USF aaaand continue being a staunch USF supporter/donor/advocate.

(In case you can't tell I think number retiring should be reserved for the most extreme of circumstances.)

Geez, if that's all it takes wait til you hear what the Red Sox (and Astros) did these past few years.

Yep, that’s all it takes...

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, brybull1970 said:

The Rays retired Wade Boggs' number.

 

1 hour ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Wow any semblance of respect I had for the Rays just hit the crapper...

 I think there were a number of reasons that doesn't make it look quite as bad as it does in a vacuum ....

 - First native son to play for the Devil Rays

 - First home run in DR history

 - Collected his 3000th hit in DR uniform

 - Small homage to his total MLB career

 

[NewEnglandBull]

3 minutes ago, Triple B said:

 

 I think there were a number of reasons that doesn't make it look quite as bad as it does in a vacuum ....

 - First native son to play for the Devil Rays

 - First home run in DR history

 - Collected his 3000th hit in DR uniform

 - Small homage to his total MLB career

 

Yeah I knew about two of them but not the others. Sounds primarily like good PR for the team. 

[Skingraft]

1 hour ago, brybull1970 said:

If they are going to retire numbers they need to do it in this order:

1. Selvie - first All American

2. Flowers - all time Total Offense leader

3. Grothe - second all time Total Offense, and the face of the greatest era of USF football

4. Mack - all time Rushing Offense leader

Blackwell 

Andrew hall 

[Friscobull]

1 hour ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Wow any semblance of respect I had for the Rays just hit the crapper...

I was at the game he got his 3,000 hit, a home run of all things and he kissed the plate.  I was in the cigar bar and they locked the doors and gave us Champagne and a commemorative cigar.  I kept the cigar for about 5 years and then got drunk and smoked it, it was straight A$$, however a nice memory and glad the local guy got it at home near his childhood home.  

[Gatorbull325]

1 hour ago, JTrue said:

Are we retiring numbers based on what they did while at USF or are we retiring them for what they did after USF?

QF was good but Marlon Mack hands down is the best running back USF has ever had. Nobody else comes close. As for JPP, I can see how he isnt worthy enough.