Scenario #1

[puc86]

6 minutes ago, BulledOver said:

  Interesting?  Aggressive but Interesting?  Would think it would take 14 like minded schools. At least 4 teams would need to be in the top 25 constantly with 2 in the top ten...? 

We would have zero teams in the top 25 we would be a professional league with no NCAA ties as they frown upon the whole paying players thing.

[Ghostbuster]

19 hours ago, brybull1970 said:

I will lead you to the promise land.

Its time to change the game. Develop a 14 team conference consisting of the best G5 schools, that breaks away from the NCAA, pays its players, raiding talent from P5 schools, leading to increased media rights fees. Do everything the NCAA doesn’t allow. Don’t wait to bleed out - if we go out, go out on our feet!

I appreciate the outside the box thinking but G5 schools can't even afford to keep their coaches from being poached, how can they afford to pay players?  

And without a chance to play high profile games, you're going to get FCS talent at best.  Look at this way from a players perspective:  Do you want to earn minimum wage playing in front of no one or do you want to play in the NCAA and have a chance to be drafted and make it big?  G5 players still get drafted.  That pipeline to the pros will disappear in the "XNCAAFL".

[BulledOver]

1 hour ago, puc86 said:

We would have zero teams in the top 25 we would be a professional league with no NCAA ties as they frown upon the whole paying players thing.

Of course you r very coorect however, I was just being nice to brybull before he got reamed--( wow did you see the meaning of "ream" nowadays? It use to mean like raked over the coals...**** I better look that up too..) anyway, there never would have been a Harry Potter or a Star Wars had there not been someone to have the fictional/fantasy thoughts. Remember, many forward thinking people were first ridiculed for their thoughts/ideas. And by the way Mr. Puc..good morning sunshine. 

[Friscobull]

48 minutes ago, Ghostbuster said:

I appreciate the outside the box thinking but G5 schools can't even afford to keep their coaches from being poached, how can they afford to pay players?  

And without a chance to play high profile games, you're going to get FCS talent at best.  Look at this way from a players perspective:  Do you want to earn minimum wage playing in front of no one or do you want to play in the NCAA and have a chance to be drafted and make it big?  G5 players still get drafted.  That pipeline to the pros will disappear in the "XNCAAFL".

How about this for outside the box, we become an HBCU and join the MEAC.  We could play FAMU and Bethune-Cookman annually and convince UCF to join as well to make a 14 team league with 3 in state rivals.  Maybe a stretch but has about as much chance as the semi-pro league idea getting tossed around.

[NewEnglandBull]

5 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

How about this for outside the box, we become an HBCU and join the MEAC.  We could play FAMU and Bethune-Cookman annually and convince UCF to join as well to make a 14 team league with 3 in state rivals.  Maybe a stretch but has about as much chance as the semi-pro league idea getting tossed around.

We may be at that level before you know it...

[Friscobull]

3 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

We may be at that level before you know it...

We had a nice run regardless, it is better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all.  I  still think the best days are ahead of us, nothing to base that on however living in ignorant bliss is way better than being a Debbie downer.

[USFBulls727]

22 hours ago, brybull1970 said:

I will lead you to the promise land.

Its time to change the game. Develop a 14 team conference consisting of the best G5 schools, that breaks away from the NCAA, pays its players, raiding talent from P5 schools, leading to increased media rights fees. Do everything the NCAA doesn’t allow. Don’t wait to bleed out - if we go out, go out on our feet!

Not sure about breaking away from the NCAA, just the AAC. Hopefully there's a potential commish out there looking to start up a new conference. I'm sure that Us, BYU, Boise and the rest would be very interested if this was pitched to them. The upfront cost would be a lot, but the Media contract certainly would be better. Only question I have, could you make up a new conference of nothing but G5 teams, plus BYU & Army, and expect a whole lot more than the current AAC media rights deal? I think the new conference would be closer to Big 12 level than AAC, but I'm not sure how the average CFB fan would see it. Either way, it's a step forward...

Edited June 29, 2019 by USFBulls727

[Ghostbuster]

1 hour ago, brybull1970 said:

There would be an upfront cost involved to be sure and the initial TV contract wouldn't likely be enough to cover the expenses, but as the AAC poaches 4 and 5 star talent from P5 programs because student-athletes find a $40k stipend attractive (for example), eyes will follow and revenues from various sources would increase. 

4 and 5 star talent won't care about the peanuts offered by the new league.  They can make millions in the pros but only if they are in high profile games getting noticed.

UCF had Blake Bottles go like #3 in the draft because he played in the peach bowl once (and the Jaguars were dumb).  

More importantly, no one will pay more money for schools that already have tv contracts for less.  ESPN certainly isn't going to offer more for a product they already have.  And other channels/streamers won't suddenly say "let's pay way above market value for this".

Even if you argue that the matchups would be different than before, it's still the same tv markets; so the numbers won't be there to support inflating our value that much.  Certainly won't inflate it enough to allow stipends that can persuade top talent to give up on million dollar pay days.

[Bull Dozer]

1 hour ago, Ghostbuster said:

4 and 5 star talent won't care about the peanuts offered by the new league.  They can make millions in the pros but only if they are in high profile games getting noticed.

UCF had Blake Bottles go like #3 in the draft because he played in the peach bowl once (and the Jaguars were dumb).  

More importantly, no one will pay more money for schools that already have tv contracts for less.  ESPN certainly isn't going to offer more for a product they already have.  And other channels/streamers won't suddenly say "let's pay way above market value for this".

Even if you argue that the matchups would be different than before, it's still the same tv markets; so the numbers won't be there to support inflating our value that much.  Certainly won't inflate it enough to allow stipends that can persuade top talent to give up on million dollar pay days.

Yeah, we already run on a deficit for football and now we're paying players? Pretty unrealistic. Also, the moment the paying players starts to hurt the NCAA they will allow it too,but with much deeper pockets 

[Triple B]

3 hours ago, brybull1970 said:

You are right - there are lots of reasons why it may not work, but the AAC doing nothing is a prolonged death.

Prolonged death? A little melodramatic, aren't we ...