Two Year Anniversary of Strong's firing, Herman has turned around Texas.

[OGBull1978]

" In the 2000s, the average margins of defeat for the two former head coach, Strong and Mack Brown, stood at 20 for Strong and 17.2 for Brown. On the sidelines, players would comment, “Here we go again.”

 

https://www.burntorangenation.com/2018/11/26/18112165/tom-herman-texas-longhorns-progress-alignment-hire-charlie-strong-big-12-championship-game

[Gatorbull325]

8-5 his 1st year and 9-3 (so far his 2nd year)....while using CCS players. 

[chapelbull]

1 minute ago, Gatorbull325 said:

8-5 his 1st year and 9-3 (so far his 2nd year)....while using CCS players. 

[usfbullrider]

Sounds like he did kind of a lot to make the team a winner.  Stuff Strong couldn't implement.

[Bull94]

On 11/26/2018 at 11:23 AM, Gatorbull325 said:

8-5 his 1st year and 9-3 (so far his 2nd year)....while using CCS players. 

funny strong didn't have a winning year in three years there

this guy 2 for 2. guy before strong 15 of 16

[GaUSFBull]

On 11/26/2018 at 11:23 AM, Gatorbull325 said:

8-5 his 1st year and 9-3 (so far his 2nd year)....while using CCS players. 

I guess you can have stats tell you anything you want to know, especially if you cherry-pick the data.

[OMAR M.]

I've been coming to this site for almost a year only now have I wanted to comment enough to actually make an account. If you are comparing Strong's time at Texas to Herman's time then you must be clueless about football. Strong never had a chance at Texas. The talent level when Strong got there was horrible. Not only did they lack talent but they weren't coached up mentally or physically. The worst part was Brown didn't leave a single QB on the roster for Strong,he left him with a TE and WR has his only options to play QB.

Now go back and look at what Strong left for Herman. Strong left him a loaded team full of talent that been properly nurtured and had experience by the time Herman got there. Herman was lucky to join the team at the perfect time when Strong's'players were mentally and physically ready to take over the team from Mack's group of scrub players that Strong had to play with cause his guys were just young kids at the time and not ready to take over the team. 

[Apis Bull]

Cue Bull94 in 3...2....

[puc86]

1 minute ago, Apis Bull said:

Cue Bull94 in 3...2....

Strong ruined Texas because he kicked off 9 players that smoked marijuana and 40% of college kids do it so that destroyed the program, now we don’t have to wait for him because I stole his thunder.

[Bull94]

7 hours ago, OMAR M. said:

I've been coming to this site for almost a year only now have I wanted to comment enough to actually make an account. If you are comparing Strong's time at Texas to Herman's time then you must be clueless about football. Strong never had a chance at Texas. The talent level when Strong got there was horrible. Not only did they lack talent but they weren't coached up mentally or physically. The worst part was Brown didn't leave a single QB on the roster for Strong,he left him with a TE and WR has his only options to play QB.

Now go back and look at what Strong left for Herman. Strong left him a loaded team full of talent that been properly nurtured and had experience by the time Herman got there. Herman was lucky to join the team at the perfect time when Strong's'players were mentally and physically ready to take over the team from Mack's group of scrub players that Strong had to play with cause his guys were just young kids at the time and not ready to take over the team. 

good stuff. wouldn't want to let facts get in the way of your argument though.

Strong was left with two 4 star QB recruits and 1 3 star QB recruit on his roster. not to mention Beuchele who was a 4 star QB recruit he brought in to start his last season there and 4 star dual threat jalen overstreet who had switched positions.

Maybe he just mismanaged his roster.

I'm sure puc and the apologists will chime in now how bad a situation Strong was in though.

Mack's 3 recruiting classes before the Strong hire were #3 in the country, #2 in the country and #24 in the country according to rivals.

Swoopes was recruited as a 4 star  QB. even had some pass attempts before Strong got there. Not sure why you think he was a TE.

David Ash was also a 3 star QB who had 87 pass attempts the year before Strong showed up. He was even named the most valuable offensive player in the 2011 Holiday Bowl. granted he had concussion issues.

Jerrod heard was also a 4 star QB recruit who converted to WR and Jalen Overstreet was a 4 star dual threat QB according to 247 that was converted and then kicked off because of Strong's no pot policy.

in fact the position of QB was so stacked that Connor Brewer, a 4 star QB that was offered by alabama notre dame michigan ,etc, decided to transfer out just 6 months before strong was hired.

here are some quotes for you and the apologists from an article written 6 months before Strong was hired. I know they don't like to look at facts but perhaps you do.

There are so many quarterbacks vying for snaps that Texas has decided to tinker with redshirt freshman Jalen Overstreet at wide receiver or the defensive secondary. And then there is, perhaps, the most highly regarded of the QBs, 2014 commitment Jerrod Heard (Denton, Texas/Guyer), who accounted for seven touchdowns in a state championship win last season.

A congested path to playing time was likely one of the main reasons for his departure from Texas. David Ash has started his first two seasons at Texas and still has two years of eligibility remaining. Behind him is senior Case McCoy, who played in eight games last season, and highly touted true freshman Tyrone Swoopes, who dazzled in the spring game.

"He's got a guy in front of him that's going to play at least two more years. They are making a big thing about this Swoopes kid and him being the future of the program.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/9464871/connor-brewer-texas-longhorns-qb-leaves-program

Tyrone Swoopes

QB

Whitewright, TX

6'5"

229

5.8

2/18/12

Edited November 29, 2018 by Bull94