The War on I4 begins this weekend

[CousinRicky]

2 hours ago, Triple B said:

Why isn't a WP/PB considered an error?

Because then it wouldn't be a WP or PB.  

[BrassBulls12]

2 hours ago, Triple B said:

Why isn't a WP/PB considered an error?

I defiantly weight them the same. if anything  a WP is worse than a E because there is no timing to it. you aren't rushed, you have all the time you need (To an extent) to throw a catchable ball. 

[chapelbull]

20 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

I defiantly weight them the same. if anything  a WP is worse than a E because there is no timing to it. you aren't rushed, you have all the time you need (To an extent) to throw a catchable ball. 

 

[BrassBulls12]

3 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

 

Care to make a point?

[BrassBulls12]

Actually know what. Don't, I don't care. E's are worse than WP. its ok for pitchers to throw one every now and then that cant be caught. I'm sure every big time program deals with that from their aces. I mean as long as our Lefty can throw mid 90's with his developing secondary pitches and lack of command, we have to ride that white rhino. talents like that only come around every so often. 

[Bull Dozer]

4 hours ago, JTrue said:

I'm with you on that one. Shane has all the makings of an ace and if you glance at his numbers he looks like an ace. But their guy against our guy hasn't worked out well for us this season. Might be bad luck, but when something happens enough times, it's not luck anymore.

#1 v. #1 we're 1-4 this year in conference.

It just means he'll be "due" when it's time for the post season 

[JTrue]

3 hours ago, Triple B said:

Why isn't a WP/PB considered an error?

An error is a fielding skill, wild pitches are a pitching skill, passed balls are a catching skill. The reason for counting any of them is for evaluation. If you want to know if your catcher can actually catch, looking at his errors doesn't help you. Likewise, John Lester the pitcher is very different than John Lester the fielder. 

Odd fact, though. If you're the catcher and the runner barrels you over and you drop the ball, it's an error.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9DU9Il-f_0

Edited April 24, 2018 by JTrue

[BrassBulls12]

11 minutes ago, JTrue said:

An error is a fielding skill, wild pitches are a pitching skill, passed balls are a catching skill. The reason for counting any of them is for evaluation. If you want to know if your catcher can actually catch, looking at his errors doesn't help you. Likewise, John Lester the pitcher is very different than John Lester the fielder. 

Odd fact, though. If you're the catcher and the runner barrels you over and you drop the ball, it's an error.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9DU9Il-f_0

used to be right? Now days won't the runner be called out? I know MLB was trying to get rid of those collisions so blocking the plate was illegal but I can't remember if they did anything against the runner to avoid it. 

[JTrue]

2 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

used to be right? Now days won't the runner be called out? I know MLB was trying to get rid of those collisions so blocking the plate was illegal but I can't remember if they did anything against the runner to avoid it. 

If the catcher has the ball AND is blocking the plate, he's fair game.

[BrassBulls12]

2 minutes ago, JTrue said:

If the catcher has the ball AND is blocking the plate, he's fair game.

So its like 2nd, they have to be going towards to base/plate.