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Pretty sure I've been here long enough to not have that be true. That would be the slowest burn ever, not my style anyway. I just am a little more pragmatic and less homerish than the typical message board fan.

What I meant is that they would not play UCF @ UCF, therefore they won't play them. I don't see them backing off their stance of playing games at home.

No, all the stuff you mentioned was included in the list in the article, specifically in the 18mil part. It wasn't forgotten, I just didn't feel like mentioning everything they did, just trying to be as succinct as possible. I already said how much they got from ticket sales and it isn't what you said either. I don't feel like lingering on this because the more digging I do the more it turns out they make. Bianchi just released an article that says they earned between 3-4 million a game last season. I appreciate what you're doing but the reality doesn't fit the narrative.

I don't see much trolling, just saying that they won't like it. Of course they won't, they want to play Bama but everyone knows Bama won't play them. Hardly trolling. I don't the writer 'gets it' at all tbh. Their needs are completely different than ours. Small victories are still victories I suppose. I just hope we don't go 0-3 against them.

It really is amazing that Tulsa has been able to do what they have in the past considering how small they are. They are as small as some FL high schools.

I married in to the Michigan thing. My bro in law played for them so I got to see the best of what they offer. Their FB fans travel well for bowl games, but bball travels better than fb in reg season. Their home games are disappointing. The crowd is VERY quiet, and old. I got yelled at for standing up when something exciting happened. Their stadium is all aluminum bleachers with concrete base. If it wasn't for their student section you could hear a baby crying across that giant stadium. Did I mention it was all old people at their games? Like white hair old, not 50 and not hardcore anymore old. They also vastly overcount their attendance numbers. I attended a 'sellout' each time I went but there were almost entire sections missing at the top.

Sorry for the double post, won't let me edit. I believe that their improvements have been funded through private contributions from donors, I don't expect additional debt accumulation unless they do an overhaul/expansion, which supposedly is in their sights. Short story long, their scheduling philosophy fits what they're trying to do while ours fits what we're trying to do. I think the Bama series is on a different level. Anyone outside of the SEC would take a true 2 for 1 with Bama. I don't see it making sense for the other guys to do 2 for 1 with Miami or Fl though unless it was 1-1-1. Bama would never go to the other guys stadium so there's no reasonable way to expect those two to play. This is one of the few advantages of playing in Ray Jay, you will score games that the rust bucket won't get.

I don't think they 'need' 7 games. Your math is a little off for them according to Forbes; in 2017 their net football-only revenue was 21.9 million. If you want to just count tickets and game day contributions (concessions, premium seating, etc) it was 3.3 and 6.6 million, respectively. They had just 6 regular season home games that season, obviously 7 reg season home games plus post season would be higher. Therefore, they are earning at a minimum over 1.3 million per game just from tickets and add ons in 2017, it's probably significantly higher. 3 games is all they 'need' to break even on their rust bucket. In 2017 they were not getting nearly the ticket draws or contributions they are now I imagine. Their total football expenses that included everything from traveling to recruiting to debt service to coaching salaries was 18.1 million in 2017. It appears that even in 2017 their FB department was profiting 3.2 million after all expenses. I personally agree with both USF's and UCF's scheduling philosophies. They both seem to be working.

I'm pretty sure they're doing a good job on APR/grad rates too.

It's not the school's doing. The last time there was threats of an investigation into this stuff it led to the school getting accepted into a P5 (Utah), so actually I can see why some are starting to push that narrative. It's not unheard of and I don't think UCF cares what other schools think of them. I'm pretty sure they only care about themselves and whoever will pay them $ like ESPN.

I didn't hate the game or the outcome.

This is one of the dumbest threads I've encountered here. It's a bad look all around.

They fought to the end, gotta give them credit for making it a game and playing with heart. Their QB has no business playing other than backup minutes.

I don't really think it's a bad look unless UF and UCF come to terms that are more agreeable to them than what we got. At that point, with the Louisville debacle it would establish a clear trend of unfavorable philosophies relative to those guys.

I couldn't hear the audio, what's the gist?

He isn't the coach many hoped, but I am still hopeful that he can at least turn around recruiting a little more.

The fact that you're now comparing them to the biggest and the best is the problem. Sure they might have only had half the crowd of a Ped State game, but that's still better than the super majority of schools out there.

I must have missed that offer. How do you change it?

I find it odd that there are people who seem to seriously believe that it is not a good idea to get an OCS. I thought it was sarcasm or facetiousness directed at the administration for dragging their feet, wow.

I'm seeing the Gasparilla Bowl at this point.

The game is going to be close one way or the other, good for tv! Good for the conference...

It means once they have invested more into us then it will be in their best business interest to promote us more than currently. Right now they don't need to do any promotions because the product is selling itself and is profitable relative to their minimal investment.

FAU is probably better than GT and Illinois this year. I really like their running game. They aren't a bad team at all. They'll win at least 9 games this year, probably 10.

I'd love to be wrong on B, may your insanity lead to power status! I'd be happy to call you a genius then. You read too much into a screen name that was created long ago. If I could change it I would, because a lot of people (you included) automatically begin driveling over the inconsequential whenever they see it. If I had known it would bring out the lowest denominator in otherwise reasonable people I wouldn't have paid homage at the time. At the time I was starting grad school and they were brought up to the conference and were pretty good...not a big deal. It doesn't change my lifelong ties to a school that you can't claim any superiority over me to.