raptorcj Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Coaches and psychics and talent scouts, oh my! The grass is always greener over there in dramaland. I'll admit with feardabull though, this could be a good game to get Flowers' feet wet if we can run on them. Otherwise, we'll keep with the two that know the offense best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,080 Reputation: 4,599 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I always get my advice from kingkongballs. A true professional in the industry. Bravo, kingkongballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted September 10, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,990 Reputation: 2,250 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted September 10, 2014 For once I would like to see USF develop a QB properly so that he is ready to roll Junior or Senior year. Not blowing out redshirts, changing OC's every year, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted September 10, 2014 brady and MANNING DIDNT HAVE AN ALLSTAR cast for a lot of their careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,080 Reputation: 4,599 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted September 10, 2014 For once I would like to see USF develop a QB properly so that he is ready to roll Junior or Senior year. Not blowing out redshirts, changing OC's every year, etc. That would be amazing but attendance, conference afilliation, and excitement are in the toilet. They are probably looking for one thing to hang their marketing hat on not 3 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedyBull Posted September 10, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 1,705 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/25/2013 Share Posted September 10, 2014 From what I understand it is basically white is #1 unless he is injured. Bench is the backup, and flowers may take the spot as the #1 if and only if white is out otherwise he will be worked in on some plays. I am excited for Saturday. I think any of the 3 could beat NC State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFbulls24 Posted September 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,516 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/2013 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I don't think anyone should have their mind made up on White yet. He's still a true sophomore and has started what 6 games? Obviously his stats don't look pretty, but I haven't given up all hope just yet. Using that logic, Bench has not had near that time here. He has played in and started what once or twice. Other times he has come in cold, not getting near the reps of White so why does everything think White is so much better? I don't remember saying White is so much better. However, Bench is the backup for a reason. I don't think Willie has chosen Mike because he makes him laugh more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls2k Posted September 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 980 Reputation: 91 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/07/2012 Share Posted September 11, 2014 CWT is like Lovie Smith, as far as I can tell. Both stick to their guns, even if incorrect. They aren't going to adjust for who they have, they run what they want and who they want. The problem with both is they are at programs that have been losing for years, with coaches that had the same philosophy. The fan bases want winning teams, NOW. They need to do whatever to win ASAP, no matter how unorthodox or if they are going back on what painted them in a corner. yep, got that right! Lovie likes to line'n up and let'm play...."our guys are better than yours", no major scheming, no adjustments. Sadly, that just doesn't work anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted September 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted September 11, 2014 At a school like USF, 4 and 5 star recruits should be put on the field immediately. This aint Alabama where we can develop them. Never was our style. Matt Grothe stepped right in and we got to # 2 beating Auburn, WVU, etc... Throw in B.J. Daniels and we beat FSU on his 1st career start. Ready for another outlandish comment? ....I also think Chuck Bresnahan should be Head Coach before we lose him to a school like Florida or Texas AM (I.E. Wally Burnham, Mark Snyder, etc) Dude consistently has a top 10 defense on the field. Grothe and Daniels both redshirted a year. If you want to look at what can happen if a 4 or 5 star recruit tries to play before he is ready the comparison to Carlton Hill is more accurate. You may get a couple of dynamic runs, but highly doubtful you will get a someone that is in command of the offense to the degree that he can lead it down the field and check into better situations consistently. People are too caught up in what they remember or think they remember of the best days of Grothe's freshmen year. He was more dynamic with his feet and that was an offense geared around the QB being the complete focus of the offense. Both running and throwing. This is a different offense that needs the QB to be in command of the offense, not just be another running back in the offense. Like I said, with Flowers, you probably get some really dynamic runs, but can he consistently move the chains and the team down the field. I think thst is a lot to put on a true freshman. Especially considering the lack of experience surrounding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted September 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted September 11, 2014 brady and MANNING DIDNT HAVE AN ALLSTAR cast for a lot of their careers Why would you use Brady as an example. He was like the 6th or 7th string QB at Michigan his first year. He didn't become the starter until his junior year. He wasn'T even highly thought of coming out of school. He was a 6th round draft choice. He has flourished in the NFL, but he wasn't even on his own team's radar at the same point that White is in his career now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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