Unionized college athletes: Taxes? What taxes?

[GaUSFBull]

Being an NCAA scholarship athlete is in no way even close to slavery.

I know that, you know that, 98% of the board knows it. Nothing we can do about the other 2%'s wanton foolishness and ignorance.

[charsibb]

being exploited to extent they are leaves little difference between them and old time slaves

 

I love ya man, but you are dead wrong on this. The difference between NCAA scholarship players and even the best-treated of slaves is so wide as to be incomparable.

 

i have been on the right side of this issue before this board was created so my understanding of slavery and exploitation is spot on

 

 

Doesn't matter how many times you'vre been right before.

 

Doesn't even matter that you may be on the right side of the issue.

 

The comparison is indefensible.

 

You may understand exploitation, but slavery is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

[BDYZR]

Does the unionization ONLY involve a select few athletes? Or does the title IX rule come into play?

I've heard rumors of certain sports "signing" multiple "players" just to keep those numbers in compliance, do they all get a slice of the union pie?

[Apis Bull]

Here's an idea, make all scholarship athletes go through the admissions process like every other student and compete for spots with all other applicants.  Then we can talk about how unfairly they're treated.

[charsibb]

Here's an idea, make all scholarship athletes go through the admissions process like every other student and compete for spots with all other applicants.  Then we can talk about how unfairly they're treated.

 

This is exactly how it works in D3.  We have NO athletic scholarships. Athletes on scholarship are all on academic scholarships. I've had several in my classes - indistinguishable from the other students.

[smazza]

Here's an idea, make all scholarship athletes go through the admissions process like every other student and compete for spots with all other applicants.  Then we can talk about how unfairly they're treated.

 

 

it is about making money for the school

 

not academics

 

 

you are confusing issues

[smazza]

 

being exploited to extent they are leaves little difference between them and old time slaves

 

I love ya man, but you are dead wrong on this. The difference between NCAA scholarship players and even the best-treated of slaves is so wide as to be incomparable.

 

i have been on the right side of this issue before this board was created so my understanding of slavery and exploitation is spot on

 

 

Doesn't matter how many times you'vre been right before.

 

Doesn't even matter that you may be on the right side of the issue.

 

The comparison is indefensible.

 

You may understand exploitation, but slavery is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

 

 

 

slavery is simply exploitation taken to is ultimate  limit

 

players are offered something they cant achieve(an education) and not enough food(until last week)

 

the white man can pretend all they want

[JTrue]

Last time I checked, no one rounded up football players in chains and sold them to the university. I must be mixing up my definition of slavery with another one.

[Apis Bull]

If you're going to compare it to anything, it's more like indentured servitude.  It certainly in no way compares to slavery.  Every time someone like and athlete or entertainer says that they are like slaves, they really diminish the atrocities of actually slavery.

[charsibb]

If you're going to compare it to anything, it's more like indentured servitude.  It certainly in no way compares to slavery.  Every time someone like and athlete or entertainer says that they are like slaves, they really diminish the atrocities of actually slavery.

 

Indentured servitude is even a bad comparison, because any student can walk away from a full-ride scholarship at any time with no penalties (other than having to sit out a year). When the worst that can happen is one year of free room and board, it's hardly indentured

 

As for Steve's comment that they're offered an education they cannot achieve, the vase majority of scholarship students graduate, and have a better life, enabled by their athletic talents. You CANNOT play competitive sports forever (this "getting old" stuff is for the birds!), but no one can EVER take away an education.

 

Long term medical care is a legitimate issue. The rest is diversion, pique, and pride.