bullsbucsfan426 Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,114 Reputation: 471 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I'd like to say that even though I'm not the biggest fan of this hire, I'm now behind Harlan 110%. I think of this like the start of conference play in football-what's the past is the past, it's a new season now and we have a new chance to make things ours. Will I be upset if he messes up? yes. But is he the right hire? Well, if Dr. Genshaft and the committee believe he is, then we're not in a position to judge. Mark Harlan's record at USF is 0-0. He has done nothing wrong here. He's also done nothing right. I pray for him, because this is one of the toughest jobs in America right now. USF is currently in a major backslide. FSU and Miami are resurgent, and make no mistake, Florida will be back. We are behind that program to the east, woefully behind. I do not envy Harlan's position as he attempts to rebuild USF athletics. Harlan walks into a situation with massive debt, rather high coaching salaries, currently noncompetitive major sports, and a reduced revenue forecast for the foreseeable future. He also has great Olympic facilities, a nice state to live in, and a fair weather community that will pack Raymond James Stadium and the Sun Dome if we win. Make no mistake-he believes he can fix this, and that perhaps is the biggest thing. I patient won't die until he decides he can't live anymore. We're not dead yet. We can still be that famous dragon slayer, that beautiful green and gold school in the sun. Mark Harlan, it is your time, you can make it happen. GO BULLS! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbull Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 60 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/13/2003 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I am hoping and think he may be a home run hire. If anything, he comes from an environment that competes with several pro teams, a transient community, a community that has fans from other schools, and a city where you have more choices to spend your money/time. Just from what I see in Atlanta, I think GT/GSU have a hard time getting respect from the casual fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,114 Reputation: 471 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 I am hoping and think he may be a home run hire. If anything, he comes from an environment that competes with several pro teams, a transient community, a community that has fans from other schools, and a city where you have more choices to spend your money/time. Just from what I see in Atlanta, I think GT/GSU have a hard time getting respect from the casual fan. Very good point, and perhaps one that we've missed over the past couple of weeks. LA has a lot of things to do with your time. Tampa's of course not as big as LA, but let's face it-there are plenty of other options for your entertainment dollars. The Bucs, Lightning, Rays, the beaches, Publix wings and subs...the list goes on. Maybe we won't ever be as big as the Bucs unless we win multiple conference championships in football-but we can darn well try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted March 11, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,956 Reputation: 2,226 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted March 11, 2014 To be clear, I 100% agree with the sentiment. That being said, I will absolutely be looking for him to indicate that he is interested in doing the right things with this program. We all have our wish list and the things we know to objectively need attention. So to reiterate, I on board and think the guy has a lot of upside. However, I need to know that he understands what position we are in and what he intends to do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,982 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/12/2008 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Joey Johnston â€@JJohnstonTBO New #USF AD Mark Harlan says he's not afraid to make decisions and make changes. Says there will likely be changes needed. Wasn't specific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I'm at the press conference now; I'll take notes and post as the happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted March 11, 2014 So with all the rantings and ravings about whether this is a good hire or not, what is the time frame for understanding if it is or is not and what are you looking for to decide if it is or isn't? Are we just looking at wanting to build winning teams? What is a winning team that deems success? Are we happy to be back to those 9-4 years in the first couple of years. do we need to make the tournament 2 or 3 years in row? to deem sit was a successful hire? The way some act around here if we aren't considered for a P5 conference soon it doesn't matter what the records are, some will deem it a failed hire. Just curious what the sentiments are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,114 Reputation: 471 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 So with all the rantings and ravings about whether this is a good hire or not, what is the time frame for understanding if it is or is not and what are you looking for to decide if it is or isn't? Are we just looking at wanting to build winning teams? What is a winning team that deems success? Are we happy to be back to those 9-4 years in the first couple of years. do we need to make the tournament 2 or 3 years in row? to deem sit was a successful hire? The way some act around here if we aren't considered for a P5 conference soon it doesn't matter what the records are, some will deem it a failed hire. Just curious what the sentiments are. For me? It has to be three years. Why? I think the realignment bandwagon will be starting up again in 2 years after the Big 12 realizes it needs to have a CCG to protect their changes at a national championship. They will be looking for the best programs that can move the needle. Right now UCF is unfortunately a better take for them. So is CIncinatti. Our major programs are at the bottom of their sports. That will not help us get into a P5 conference. Winning will. We already have shown that should we win, the stadium will be full. Not only that, but the late 2000s early '10s showed we had a quality rival that is already there in West Virginia with multiple very well attended games. We need to beat UCF at least twice as well and win a conference championship, plus finish the season ranked. in football, accompanied by making the basketball post season at least 2 out of three yeaers (14, 15, 16). Do that and we will be in the Big 12-our attendance will surely be good enough, in addition to our already excellent facilities and campus to warrant inclusion. The only thing that holds us back is if the Big 12 moves quickly. I'm still worried that suddenly in the middle of April they'll make an announcement, and we will essentially be relegated long term to FIU/FAU status. But we need to be back big time within three years or Mark Harlan will be looking like a failure to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,424 Reputation: 710 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Hopefully the Big 12 will evaluate USF (and other schools) over the long-term, rather than just the previous season. And yes, they did pick up TCU - jumping away from the Big East - after one really amazing season. Of course other major factors impacted that decision (especially audience and location), but it also helped for their program to be on an upswing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Held_AccountaBull Posted March 11, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 5,881 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/2005 Share Posted March 11, 2014 This guy asking this 5 minute question needs to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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