Joe Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Floyd wasn't "noodle arming" anything -- he was throwing quite hard all night, too hard in many cases. However, he was telegraphing worse than Matt Grothe did when he first started. He never did any reads -- only looked at his intended receiver. The soft zone wasn't the problem... it was smart to start with a "keep it in front of you until we see what they can do." The problem was the defense simply did not play their assignments... and after the score started running, the defense players started trying to take the game over selfishly. The game PLAN wasn't the problem. The problem was EXECUTION. Coach made that pretty clear on his radio show and in the paper ... And that's what I don't get about Joe's comments here. On another thread, he totally agreed with me when I said "blame the (execution of the) players." Yet we see none of this here. I don't know why it's so hard to accept that our players played like garbage, while at the same time the McNeese players took what we have them + made their own plays. When did I say it wasn't execution? If you scroll up you'll see I wrote in this very thread. 2) Our terrible gameplan wasn't executed well Listen, if this game had been under Leavitt's or Skip's watch, this board would have 100 posts about how terrible the coaching was. You don't lose by 32 to a team like this and not have some of the responsibility fall on the lap of the coaches. I don't care what Taggart says, he and his staff's performance was just as bad as our players execution. I can sit here an nitpick at what I thought was below par from a coaching aspect (there was plenty), but I don't think it's necessary. WE LOST BY A RECORD SETTING 32 POINTS TO A I-AA TEAM. That speaks for itself. I'm not bailing on Taggart, or calling for his head, or saying he's a bad coach, or even worse, wishing we'd bring Skip back. I'm just being objective. If you don't agree, that's fine, but saying Taggart and his staff **** the bed isn't going to make you a bad fan. Lets hope he gets it together over the next few weeks and show some progress through the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) Floyd wasn't "noodle arming" anything -- he was throwing quite hard all night, too hard in many cases. However, he was telegraphing worse than Matt Grothe did when he first started. He never did any reads -- only looked at his intended receiver. The soft zone wasn't the problem... it was smart to start with a "keep it in front of you until we see what they can do." The problem was the defense simply did not play their assignments... and after the score started running, the defense players started trying to take the game over selfishly. The game PLAN wasn't the problem. The problem was EXECUTION. Coach made that pretty clear on his radio show and in the paper ... And that's what I don't get about Joe's comments here. On another thread, he totally agreed with me when I said "blame the (execution of the) players." Yet we see none of this here. I don't know why it's so hard to accept that our players played like garbage, while at the same time the McNeese players took what we have them + made their own plays. When did I say it wasn't execution? If you scroll up you'll see I wrote in this very thread. 2) Our terrible gameplan wasn't executed well Listen, if this game had been under Leavitt's or Skip's watch, this board would have 100 posts about how terrible the coaching was. You don't lose by 32 to a team like this and not have some of the responsibility fall on the lap of the coaches. I don't care what Taggart says, he and his staff's performance was just as bad as our players execution. I can sit here an nitpick at what I thought was below par from a coaching aspect (there was plenty), but I don't think it's necessary. WE LOST BY A RECORD SETTING 32 POINTS TO A I-AA TEAM. That speaks for itself. I'm not bailing on Taggart, or calling for his head, or saying he's a bad coach, or even worse, wishing we'd bring Skip back. I'm just being objective. If you don't agree, that's fine, but saying Taggart and his staff **** the bed isn't going to make you a bad fan. Lets hope he gets it together over the next few weeks and show some progress through the year. obviously some of it has to do with coaching but we fail to realize this is a team that lost an NFL QB and NFL corner and has lost 11 of it's last 12 (??). I wasn't expecting a blowout. Things definitely went south quickly and I think a lot has to do with the fragile mindset of the players. They are expecting bad things to happen. McNeese State scored 31 in the 2nd quarter. add the early TD in the 3rd off the pick and that was 38 points of which 21 were absolute gifts. Not saying coaching didn't have something to do with it but I think it might take awhile to get the losing culture out of this team.they are expecting bad things to happen and when they do they snowball. this teams needs to learn to deal with adversity. not sure that's a quick fix and I think it's more psychological than anything. Edited September 4, 2013 by Bull94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggTipp Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 108 Content Count: 2,484 Reputation: 288 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/26/2005 Share Posted September 4, 2013 No matter what game plan is in place, the team will fail if it is not followed...apparently why was seen in practice made the coaches feel pretty confident the team was going to succeed. Taggart said he was shocked about what he saw on the field saying he had not seen that all summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) I don't care how mentally drained this team is, a loss like we had Saturday is unacceptable from all aspects. Even the most downtrodden and beaten up programs beat I-AA schools. If they don't, they don't lose by 32 while giving up 425 yards on defense. Losing like that this Saturday? I'd agree we're beat from last season's issues. Against Miami, Cinci, Louisville? Yes. Everyone was awful coaches, players alike, and that cannot happen again. Edited September 4, 2013 by Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I don't care how mentally drained this team is, a loss like we had Saturday is unacceptable from all aspects. Losing like that this Saturday? I'd agree. Against Miami, Cinci, Louisville? Yes. Everyone was awful, and that cannot happen again. I get it's unacceptable but look what happened. they scored 31 in the 2nd . they started on average inside our 30 yard line on 5 straight possessions. 3 of those inside the 16 (1 was a TD) it was an awful game that just snowballed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcocky101 Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 89 Content Count: 1,803 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2007 Share Posted September 4, 2013 A loss is a loss...when things go bad for the Bulls, they give up. IT doesn't matter the opponent, a team gives up will get schlacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted September 4, 2013 we arent talented we have no qb our coaches sucked STOP WITH THE EXCUSES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 A loss is a loss...when things go bad for the Bulls, they give up. IT doesn't matter the opponent, a team gives up will get schlacked. Yep. That's at the core of everything we saw, and it's on CWT to fix it. I really didn't expect that after hearing all the stuff from camp, seems clear coach didn't either. If you show your enemy you'll quit when it gets tough, they'll make it tougher. No excuse for that junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Floyd wasn't "noodle arming" anything -- he was throwing quite hard all night, too hard in many cases. However, he was telegraphing worse than Matt Grothe did when he first started. He never did any reads -- only looked at his intended receiver. The soft zone wasn't the problem... it was smart to start with a "keep it in front of you until we see what they can do." The problem was the defense simply did not play their assignments... and after the score started running, the defense players started trying to take the game over selfishly. The game PLAN wasn't the problem. The problem was EXECUTION. This looks pretty wobbly to me..http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9622075 That isn't a weak throw, that is a late throw. That pass needs to be thrown before the receiver turns around or it is going to be picked. Speaking of game plan, if we hit two of the five receivers we had open deep in the first half we are up easily and it's a much different ballgame. Execution was the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted September 4, 2013 There were multiple passes Floyd made early on that I thought he may have zipped too quickly. The deep balls were constantly overthrown too, not underthrown as a noodle arm would indicate. The kid doesn't have a noodle arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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