asdlfef Posted February 12, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 100 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2008 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If we pay the student athletes, I think we should treat them like any other student. No sports scholarships, only academic scholarships. Then pay them the same wages that the students receive for working on campus - $7.25 - $9.25 per hour. If it's a school business make it like any other school business and leave education out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted February 12, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If we pay the student athletes, I think we should treat them like any other student. No sports scholarships, only academic scholarships. Then pay them the same wages that the students receive for working on campus - $7.25 - $9.25 per hour. If it's a school business make it like any other school business and leave education out of it. Be careful what you wish for. This is essentially what D2 and D3 do... We're already essentially back to FCS, let's hope we don't fall THAT far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterBullMCMXC Posted February 12, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 332 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/25/2011 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If we held athletes to the same standard as regular students then we wouldn't have very many athletes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted February 12, 2013 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Under Siege? Seige ---------------- The NCAA FIFY. Now it matches the thread title! No, it doesn't .... You need to do some more fixin. Oops. You're right. Too many "unders" Nope ... Look again, Professor .... although I don't think you can change it to match the thread title without Photoshop. Huh? I think he means you should have it read "Seige." FRACK! Oops! The photoshop comment threw me. It's text, not a graphic. LOL Happy now? Your original was a graphic .... and ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 12, 2013 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,088 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted February 12, 2013 This tired conversation that has been going on for years becomes a real issue when an entire team refuses to take the field for some bowl game or NCAA basketball tournament game. It would be selfish and short-sighted of the student-athletes but it would afford many fans the opportunity to stop supporting college athletics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull-71 Posted February 12, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 1,421 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/17/2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 This tired conversation that has been going on for years becomes a real issue when an entire team refuses to take the field for some bowl game or NCAA basketball tournament game. It would be selfish and short-sighted of the student-athletes but it would afford many fans the opportunity to stop supporting college athletics. Every time there is a lockout or walkout..The fans get SCREWED But not as bad as the Owners and the Players as they try to get the fans back to buy season Tickets and pay $6.50 to $7.00 for a beer., When things get ****** pro-teams change cities What is a School going to do..Shut down the program..There have been plenty of schools who have had a loosing program and stopped football. It is possible to kill the Golden Goose..The saddest part is USF won't have a goose to roast for Thanksgiving. Go Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted February 13, 2013 so a free college education, room and board for 4+ years, free state of the art health care, and extensive on the job training and potential job placement is not enough? not even close they gave that 30 years ago the talent needs to finally get paid and paid well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted February 13, 2013 If we pay the student athletes, I think we should treat them like any other student. No sports scholarships, only academic scholarships. Then pay them the same wages that the students receive for working on campus - $7.25 - $9.25 per hour. If it's a school business make it like any other school business and leave education out of it. when you start paying coaches like professors i will buy that argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismo Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 9,688 Reputation: 1,237 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/24/2009 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Why should the players get anymore than they already do? Like bulliever said, this pay the players idea is based on a sense of entitlement. Most of these players would be nothing without the universities. If being a college athlete is such a raw deal and unfair then let the players try and form their own league or persue another venture instead of attending college. They still have choices. They don't do that because of the huge benefits attending a university has. You guys are making it sound as if they are slaves or something. They have all of their freedoms. They can quit, or not attend at all, or attend a university as a non-athlete. These guys have food, housing, and healthcare all being provided for them, in addition to a university education. It's voluntary arrangement, not some labor camp. If the conditions and compensation are so terrible then the players have the option to do something else. Now they need a salary too? Where can I find an example of this arrangement anywhere else... Food, housing, healthcare and an additional salary? (Government welfare programs are the only thing that comes to mind, which shows the entitlement aspect this debate) If the players are going to be paid then they should not get free food, housing, healthcare and tuition unless they can earn those through an academic scholarship. Paying them shifts their relationship from primarily being a student to being an employee. You can be atudent and employee simultaneously but unless your academics earned you a full ride you are not getting free food, housing and tuition and a pay check. Also, I don't know of any scholarship or university job that pays for healthcare costs. Do universities provide food housing healthcare and free education for any other employee? Paying players is a ridiculous notion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Why should the players get anymore than they already do? Like bulliever said, this pay the players idea is based on a sense of entitlement. Most of these players would be nothing without the universities. If being a college athlete is such a raw deal and unfair then let the players try and form their own league or persue another venture instead of attending college. They still have choices. They don't do that because of the huge benefits attending a university has. You guys are making it sound as if they are slaves or something. They have all of their freedoms. They can quit, or not attend at all, or attend a university as a non-athlete. These guys have food, housing, and healthcare all being provided for them, in addition to a university education. It's voluntary arrangement, not some labor camp. If the conditions and compensation are so terrible then the players have the option to do something else. Now they need a salary too? Where can I find an example of this arrangement anywhere else... Food, housing, healthcare and an additional salary? (Government welfare programs are the only thing that comes to mind, which shows the entitlement aspect this debate) If the players are going to be paid then they should not get free food, housing, healthcare and tuition unless they can earn those through an academic scholarship. Paying them shifts their relationship from primarily being a student to being an employee. You can be atudent and employee simultaneously but unless your academics earned you a full ride you are not getting free food, housing and tuition and a pay check. Also, I don't know of any scholarship or university job that pays for healthcare costs. Do universities provide food housing healthcare and free education for any other employee? Paying players is a ridiculous notion. Well spoken, and I agree with you 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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