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So freakin what we on. We suck. Not as much as Skip, but he destroyed this thing. Let's destroy his contract and get him the frick outta here.

Destroyed what thing?? Asked a couple of times but nobody seems to want to put a finger on it .... just rhetorical ********?

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skip is now a lock to be here next year with w over uconn and excuse of no-bj for final three losses

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He has an excuse now, BJ out for the year. He gets another season.

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Keep him? That's only if he's willing to stay. It will probably take a nice raise and extension to get him to turn down the other offers he doubtless will be getting this offseason.

Could USF get so lucky?!....I can only pray and hope.

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"Destroyed what thing?? Asked a couple of times but nobody seems to want to put a finger on it .... just rhetorical ********? "

Perception of the program to start with, Consecutive Bowl streak,(We were a yearly fixutre in bowl games).

Home game winning streak. We actually had one of the nations longest home winning streaks in the country.

Winning Seasons, We are on pace to have our worse season in the history of the program, Only 2 losing seasons in the history pre Holtz.

Attendance, Look at Butts in seats not the padded number of FSU Season Ticket sales or announced crowds.

Not losing to Non BCS schools (Ball St).

Beating BCS teams at home, Besides UConn this year, and UTEP last year.

That in itself is enough to question his employement.

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If USF fires Holtz now, we are out $2.5 Million

If USF fires him next year, we are out $4.5 Million

If we keep Holtz then season tickets are going to fall off.

That USF loses more $$$$$$$$

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If we keep Holtz then season tickets are going to fall off.

That USF loses more $$$$$$$$

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"Destroyed what thing?? Asked a couple of times but nobody seems to want to put a finger on it .... just rhetorical ********? "

Perception of the program to start with, Consecutive Bowl streak,(We were a yearly fixutre in bowl games).

Perception by who ....? We never even made the ESPN bottom 10.

Home game winning streak. We actually had one of the nations longest home winning streaks in the country.

No idea what you're talking about there ... We lost our last home game in 2009 to Miami and our home conference winning streak was at 2 when Skip came on board.

Winning Seasons, We are on pace to have our worse season in the history of the program, Only 2 losing seasons in the history pre Holtz.

Attendance, Look at Butts in seats not the padded number of FSU Season Ticket sales or announced crowds.

Not losing to Non BCS schools (Ball St).

Those are setbacks .... Calling them destroying something is pretty melodramatic.

Beating BCS teams at home, Besides UConn this year, and UTEP last year

UTEP isn't a BCS team ... but starting in 2014, we've only got 2 "BCS" teams on the home schedule, anyway.

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Perception by who ....? We never even made the ESPN bottom 10.

Actually we did make the ESPN Bottom 10 along with Hawkeyes, Jayhawks, and Huskies when the MAC went on a rampage through the BCS.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom10120926/unscripted-drama-all-bottom-10

The MAC, so often cast in the role of lovable loser, flipped the script Saturday, scoring BCS upsets from Central Michigan, Ball State, Western Michigan and Northern Illinois. Their victims -- Iowa, USF, UConn and Kansas, respectively -- combined to earn this week's not-so-coveted No. 5 spot.

mac_50.jpg 5. Big MAC 0-4 "Top Chef": Sharpen your knives and enter the Bottom 10 kitchen. Today's special: a Big MAC sandwich with all the fixings. Mix in a little Hawkeyes, Jayhawks, Bulls and Huskies and bon appetit.

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If Skip stays, I will not be happy. If COSH stays, I will be FURIOUS. I'd take Skip staying next year if it meant Cosh's worthless @$$ was fired. However, they both really need to go.

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