Should PSU get the Death Penalty?

[Southshore26]

It would appear the NCAA feels that they have the authority to act...

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8171574/jerry-sandusky-scandal-ncaa-president-mark-emmert-signals-heavy-sanctions-penn-state

[crambone]

As well they should.

[Southshore26]

I don't disagree with you.

[Bull94]

the people responsible should be held criminally accountable.

punishing an inanimate institution doesn't accomplish anything.

the people at fault are long gone while the innocent people that are left suffer the consequences.

[Bulls1181]

the people responsible should be held criminally accountable.

punishing an inanimate institution doesn't accomplish anything.

the people at fault are long gone while the innocent people that are left suffer the consequences.

It can't happen again. The only way is to make an example of PSU. IMO you have to punish the institution in some way.

[GaUSFBull]

the people responsible should be held criminally accountable.

punishing an inanimate institution doesn't accomplish anything.

the people at fault are long gone while the innocent people that are left suffer the consequences.

The culture is still there, as evidenced by the huge crowds that rioted after Paterno's firing, and by the fact that the Paterno statue remains standing. Death penalty would be a huge blow to the culture in Happy Valley.

[Bull94]

the people responsible should be held criminally accountable.

punishing an inanimate institution doesn't accomplish anything.

the people at fault are long gone while the innocent people that are left suffer the consequences.

It can't happen again. The only way is to make an example of PSU. IMO you have to punish the institution in some way.

problem with that is that punishing penn state is not a deterrent. it's like fining a company for something the CEO did wrong. it only hurts the innocent shareholders. they are the ones who pay the penalty. if you don't go after the CEO then there is nothing to deter another CEO from doing the same thing. he knows he won't be held responsible.

[Bull94]

the people responsible should be held criminally accountable.

punishing an inanimate institution doesn't accomplish anything.

the people at fault are long gone while the innocent people that are left suffer the consequences.

The culture is still there, as evidenced by the huge crowds that rioted after Paterno's firing, and by the fact that the Paterno statue remains standing. Death penalty would be a huge blow to the culture in Happy Valley.

the problem is that this type of reaction is a societal flaw not just one at penn state. we put our athletic teams and coaches above everything.

should the school pay a huge financial penalty? absolutely they profited from their football program and they will pay a huge financial penalty to the victims.

give them the death penalty? no. that just penalizes the innocent people that are left while the people that actually were responsible for the deplorable actions go scott free.

like I said previously, they should go after any person involved. both criminally and financially. ruin them. that will deter presidents, athletic directors, and coaches from ever doing anything close to this again in the future.

Calipari is a prime example. the guy has cheated everywhere he has been. those programs were sanctioned but he keeps on cheating and getting better jobs. he has never been held responsible. ban the guy for 5 years if a team of his is caught cheating. that will make them think twice about cheating.

Hitt, the coach from UofL, is one of the top recruiters in the country. he was involved in the cheating at maimi. miami will get sanctioned for his cheating while he goes on to a better job at UofL.

it makes no sense. punish the individuals that are responsible. give them lifetime basn if you have to. that will deter the cheating and covering up

[GaUSFBull]

I disagree that you're punishing innocent people. A university does not have to have football to do its job - education ... which, frankly, you've pointed out time and again that you'd rather see more dollars flow into education and educators, not athletics. Here is Penn State's chance to get back to what really matters.

I'm all for the players being able to transfer to other schools with no penalty. They can play right away.

Other than that, who are you punishing? Sometimes you need to have something taken away from you to teach you what really matters. The NCAA has a clear opportunity here to make an example of PSU.

I don't disagree with you on your other examples, but those aren't the same as this issue here. This is an entire institution that was controlled by the grips of men so powerful and so corrupt, that even the janitors were afraid to come forward about the abused kids. Only reason I want the NCAA to get involved at all is because it was an athletic department that was pulling all of the strings. Even now the Paterno family still enjoys support in Happy Valley, although admittedly not as much as it used to, but the fact that they haven't run that family out of town and taken down that statue speaks volumes as to how systemic this issue is there. The death penalty will help get that culture out of State College better than punishment for individuals alone.

[charsibb]

You need to change the culture of an institution, not just the behaviour of an individual.

While a member of an institution, it's amazing just how malleable an individual's behaviour becomes.

Even in a mock experiment, people do things they wouldn't otherwise do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

The culture at PSU has to change. Will the death penalty do that? Probably. Will anything less? Probably not.

Bring on Sparky!!