Big East Possible Agreement With WVU

[macphisto]

Downside of this for BE football for upcoming season Boise St would have been replacement, now Memphis appears to be option.

Except Boise refused. Looks like no agreement with WVU unless they can get someone in to replace them prior to the 27 month window. Works for Pitt and Cuse too in that case.

If all three want to leave and all three want to pay $20M and can get UCF, SMU, and Houston in for next year then they probably will be allowed to go. But we clearly want replacements.

I am saying If the BE would have done this agreement a month ago it would have been Boise St, now the replacement for WVU in 2012 will be Memphis, since they will be the option that appears to be able to move first out of ConfUSA, if Pitt and Cuse want out you are right pay and get someone in.

Not sure if Boise was willing to jump in a month ago. Just because WVU sources say so does not make it so. I think a part of the issue is not just bringing in a football only squad for next year, but also replacing WVU in basketball. Memphis would do that. Pitt and Cuse will be much more difficult to replace - especially Syracuse. WVU has been good over the past few years, but they are not as historically strong as Cuse, Pitt, or even Memphis. Temple clearly would be a good add for b-ball and a positive for football over the past few years.

[jvwvu]

WVU Bball was not needing "replaced", imo. A 15 team league would have been a easy option for one year. Would have just been another 2 game team, and another bye in tournament. Not saying it would have been easy.

Boise St was the choice for a 8 team football league, and was being discussed for a while, now they fill it's to late.

[jasonb56]

interesting twist... If Big East can't find replacement for WVU this fall, Star-Ledger reports Syracuse & Rutgers could play each other twice

per B.M.

[Who'sYourData?]

I am saying If the BE would have done this agreement a month ago it would have been Boise St, now the replacement for WVU in 2012 will be Memphis, since they will be the option that appears to be able to move first out of ConfUSA, if Pitt and Cuse want out you are right pay and get someone in.

And IF WVU had tried to find a solution instead of filing suit, this could have been resolved months ago. Don't tell me this only got done because WVU filed suit. If WVU had gone groveling to the BE and said we need out next year, we are willing to pay and we are willing to work on scheduling solutions, this could have all gotten done.

WVU filed suit because WVU did not want to pay the $20mil plus other damages. They are now stuck and realize this is the best deal they are going to get. So now WVU is ready to deal. To put this on the BE is ridiculous. WVU is the one changing the terms of the deal, not the BE.

[Joe]

There is no if for WVU at this point. They're not playing in our conference in 2012. No chance. It's about the buyout.

My guess? We take their money, and roll with 7. Everyone but Navy comes in for 2013 and we allow Pitt/Cuse to go to the ACC early.

[SoFlaEer]

I am saying If the BE would have done this agreement a month ago it would have been Boise St, now the replacement for WVU in 2012 will be Memphis, since they will be the option that appears to be able to move first out of ConfUSA, if Pitt and Cuse want out you are right pay and get someone in.

And IF WVU had tried to find a solution instead of filing suit, this could have been resolved months ago. Don't tell me this only got done because WVU filed suit. If WVU had gone groveling to the BE and said we need out next year, we are willing to pay and we are willing to work on scheduling solutions, this could have all gotten done. WVU filed suit because WVU did not want to pay the $20mil plus other damages. They are now stuck and realize this is the best deal they are going to get. So now WVU is ready to deal. To put this on the BE is ridiculous. WVU is the one changing the terms of the deal, not the BE.

that is not at all true - marinotto stated from day one they intended to hold WVU (and Pitt and SU) to the 27 months, no if ands or buts. WVU from the day they announced they were leaving made it clear they were leaving effective June 30, 2012.

WVU has always been willing to negotiate a fair settlement and part ways. The BE offices would have dragged this out for as long as possible if WVU had not filed the suits. The suit was brought more with the intention of getting/forcing the BE to the negotiating table and stop the delays.

[SoFlaEer]

Downside of this for BE football for upcoming season Boise St would have been replacement, now Memphis appears to be option.

Except Boise refused. Looks like no agreement with WVU unless they can get someone in to replace them prior to the 27 month window. Works for Pitt and Cuse too in that case.

If all three want to leave and all three want to pay $20M and can get UCF, SMU, and Houston in for next year then they probably will be allowed to go. But we clearly want replacements.

We don't just want replacements ... we NEED replacements. A seven team conference just isn't viable. Memphis and Boise won't be here until 2013, so if WVU wants to leave early, they pay out the ass and help us get someone else in for 2012. Any other way would create far too much trouble to find replacement games at this point in the year for all remaining BE teams.

the BE only had seven members for 2004 and somehow was able to play football that year, crown a champion, and send a team to a BCS game. They managed to survive. They'll be able to do it again.

[MaltLiquorBull]

Downside of this for BE football for upcoming season Boise St would have been replacement, now Memphis appears to be option.

Except Boise refused. Looks like no agreement with WVU unless they can get someone in to replace them prior to the 27 month window. Works for Pitt and Cuse too in that case.

If all three want to leave and all three want to pay $20M and can get UCF, SMU, and Houston in for next year then they probably will be allowed to go. But we clearly want replacements.

We don't just want replacements ... we NEED replacements. A seven team conference just isn't viable. Memphis and Boise won't be here until 2013, so if WVU wants to leave early, they pay out the ass and help us get someone else in for 2012. Any other way would create far too much trouble to find replacement games at this point in the year for all remaining BE teams.

the BE only had seven members for 2004 and somehow was able to play football that year, crown a champion, and send a team to a BCS game. They managed to survive. They'll be able to do it again.

Sure, the BE could go with 7, but that would suck.

[Who'sYourData?]

I am saying If the BE would have done this agreement a month ago it would have been Boise St, now the replacement for WVU in 2012 will be Memphis, since they will be the option that appears to be able to move first out of ConfUSA, if Pitt and Cuse want out you are right pay and get someone in.

And IF WVU had tried to find a solution instead of filing suit, this could have been resolved months ago. Don't tell me this only got done because WVU filed suit. If WVU had gone groveling to the BE and said we need out next year, we are willing to pay and we are willing to work on scheduling solutions, this could have all gotten done. WVU filed suit because WVU did not want to pay the $20mil plus other damages. They are now stuck and realize this is the best deal they are going to get. So now WVU is ready to deal. To put this on the BE is ridiculous. WVU is the one changing the terms of the deal, not the BE.

that is not at all true - marinotto stated from day one they intended to hold WVU (and Pitt and SU) to the 27 months, no if ands or buts. WVU from the day they announced they were leaving made it clear they were leaving effective June 30, 2012.

WVU has always been willing to negotiate a fair settlement and part ways. The BE offices would have dragged this out for as long as possible if WVU had not filed the suits. The suit was brought more with the intention of getting/forcing the BE to the negotiating table and stop the delays.

Marianetto's statement was merely a negotiating point. What was he supposed to say? "We think WVU should be able to just walk away." Let's be realistic here, he was saying what he HAD to say all the while knowing they were headed to a negotiation.

WVU administration does not know what could have been accomplished because the administration chose to immediately go to the courts rather than try to negotiate first. It is blatently obvious that WVU was simply trying to gain leverage to reduce the damages they would have to pay. And it has backfired.

[GaUSFBull]

WVU administration does not know what could have been accomplished because the administration chose to immediately go to the courts rather than try to negotiate first. It is blatently obvious that WVU was simply trying to gain leverage to reduce the damages they would have to pay. And it has backfired.

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