USF Athletics Facilities Discussion

[Jihme]

how many BE titles would we need to get the consistent number of season tix holders to be high enough for an OCS justification?

Good question... Personally I think we would need around 3 BEast titles and out of those [glow=red,2,300]at least 2 BCS Bowl Wins[/glow] (Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, or Rose) over big name programs & a positive in state versus record against all of the big 3 (UF, FSU, and Miami). Right now we have zero BEast titles and are what like 2-3 vs the big 4 (1 win vs FSU, 1 win and 2 losses against Miami, and 1 loss against UF).

i think you hit the nail on the head

[Donno]

anyone have pics of UL's new additions?

Not pics, but still cool:

Well hopefully now that we have spent millions on renovating all of the facilities for all of the on-campus athletics teams, they will start planning out a way to make this happen... I expect an announcement or news of a proposed USF stadium to come out within the next 5-6 years.

From what I am hearing, probably a little sooner.  Seems a lot of people are grumbling, even outside the AD. 

I didn't realize but the overall donation level significantly increases with an OCS.  So besides the crappy deal we have with TSA, we are leaving additional money on the table.

[South_Florida_Flip]

With all of the $$$$ being spent on the other facilites right now, 5-6 years is very optimistic for us. We just don't have the $$$$ we need to build the type of stadium that we should have,

[USFishin]

With all of the $$$$ being spent on the other facilites right now, 5-6 years is very optimistic for us. We just don't have the $$$$ we need to build the type of stadium that we should have,

Well the government spends money it doesn't have, why can't we?  (sorry I had to)  >

[SRQ]

consistent sellouts at RayJay will bring OCS; nothing else.

[cmhatter]

consistent sellouts at RayJay will bring OCS; nothing else.

disagree.... consistent 45-50 in the seats can do it

[Danm1983]

consistent sellouts at RayJay will bring OCS; nothing else.

disagree.... consistent 45-50 in the seats can do it

agreed. ucf can sell 40-45 and fill that single bowl they have, if we can sell 45-55 (i would prefer hovering around 50 avg and pushing low to mid 50Ks more often), we can support an OCS.

people need to realize usf isn't the SEC, and to stop dreaming of building a 65k stadium or a 70-90k stadium. pipe dreams. i've been harping that we should build an oregon-esque stadium for a while. oregon...about 54,000. and one of the loudest places to play at. USF can do that. become a perennial bcs bowl attendee, and chase some national championships, and THEN we'll talk about going 60K+.

remember kids,

full, smaller stadium > half empty monstrosity that never gets filled

[RickUSF]

consistent sellouts at RayJay will bring OCS; nothing else.

disagree.... consistent 45-50 in the seats can do it

agreed. ucf can sell 40-45 and fill that single bowl they have, if we can sell 45-55 (i would prefer hovering around 50 avg and pushing low to mid 50Ks more often), we can support an OCS.

people need to realize usf isn't the SEC, and to stop dreaming of building a 65k stadium or a 70-90k stadium. pipe dreams. i've been harping that we should build an oregon-esque stadium for a while. oregon...about 54,000. and one of the loudest places to play at. USF can do that. become a perennial bcs bowl attendee, and chase some national championships, and THEN we'll talk about going 60K+.

remember kids,

full, smaller stadium > half empty monstrosity that never gets filled

meh.  i dont think anyone is asking for anything more than a 50k stadium.  i dont understand why the school went ahead and built the soccer team their own stadium.  we could have killed 2 birds with 1 stone by building a dual-use soccer/football stadium at that site.  if people are worried about the soccer games looking empty, i'm sure they can throw some logo tarp over the top half of the stadium

[Southshore26]

consistent sellouts at RayJay will bring OCS; nothing else.

disagree.... consistent 45-50 in the seats can do it

agreed. ucf can sell 40-45 and fill that single bowl they have, if we can sell 45-55 (i would prefer hovering around 50 avg and pushing low to mid 50Ks more often), we can support an OCS.

people need to realize usf isn't the SEC, and to stop dreaming of building a 65k stadium or a 70-90k stadium. pipe dreams. i've been harping that we should build an oregon-esque stadium for a while. oregon...about 54,000. and one of the loudest places to play at. USF can do that. become a perennial bcs bowl attendee, and chase some national championships, and THEN we'll talk about going 60K+.

remember kids,

full, smaller stadium > half empty monstrosity that never gets filled

meh.  i dont think anyone is asking for anything more than a 50k stadium.  i dont understand why the school went ahead and built the soccer team their own stadium.  we could have killed 2 birds with 1 stone by building a dual-use soccer/football stadium at that site.  if people are worried about the soccer games looking empty, i'm sure they can throw some logo tarp over the top half of the stadium

Why not? You couldn't have fit an OCS there anyways... both soccer programs have and continue to compete at a high level worthy of their own house.

I still say the OCS will be built where the current tennis complex is... there is plenty of room to move that over near the softball and baseball fields... hell the plans are already drawn for that. Yes I know that the tennis complex was just renovated but that was just a fresh coat of paint and some new fencing... nothing major or expensive.

[Woogie53]

1. USF needs to raise enough money to build a stadium big enough to fit it's current fan base + another 10-20k extra fans. There's no point in building a 40-45k seat stadium when you've got aroud 25k season tickets + 12k students + 5k visiting team allotment. That leaves USF with 3-8k seats to sell per game, and that's not even taking into account HOT, athletic dept distribution, recruits, etc. A 60k stadium is ideal in my eyes. Having an OCS would automatically bring up the attendance (they'd most likely up the student section from 12k to 15k). It would still leave a ton of empty seats, but the team will have a greater presence in the state by then. One issue however, RJS is most likely going to get a facelift in the next few years when the NFL officially gives the Glazers the ultimatum: If you ever want to host another super bowl, you need to renovate (ask the Atlanta Falcons about it).

2. The soccer stadium is perfect. You won't go around the country and see giant soccer stadiums. The new stadium is built to where they can bring in temporary bleachers so they can host tournaments and part of the NCAA tournament.