Bull94 Posted October 23, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted October 23, 2010 We seem to have a knack for shutting down the running games from teams that run the spread (WVU, Cincinnati). We have tougher times against teams that shove it down our throats like Pitt and Rutgers. This theory makes sense when you consider how quick our D is. We can run from side to side but can be blocked when its North/South. On to our pass defense. Honestly we have had issues all year with 3rd and longs. I counted 5 3rd and longs last night, not to mention a 4th down play that we gave up. We gave up two 3rd and 10s, one 3rd and 13, one 3rd and 7, and one 3rd and 20. That is unacceptble defense. We either need to play soft and give them underneath stuff, or blitz and play man on man making us succeptable to the long td (like that 4th down play). Something has to give here, but this didn't all come about last night. Re-watch the WVU game and some of the other drives earlier in the year. We can't get off the field. I'd rather us face a 3rd and 2, than a 3rd and 10. How said is tha?All this being said, our D has been the bright spot all year for us. I'd like to see them be more aggressive on 3rd and long. it seems like we take the defense to them until 3rd down and then we play prevent. Bend but don't break. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ Posted October 24, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,879 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/14/2006 Share Posted October 24, 2010 didn't sooner d give up about same amount of points to this offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nybullsfan Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 The same Sooner defense that's letting Mizzou run and pass all over the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeBull Posted October 24, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 624 Reputation: 74 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/12/2005 Share Posted October 24, 2010 For all you Buc (former?) fans from the Dungy era I saw a bend but don't break defensive game plan. (OK I know they broke a few times)And look a the Cincy rushing stats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted October 24, 2010 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,034 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 5 Joined: 08/23/2008 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Time of Possession:Cincy 33:21USF 26:392nd half(per Greg)Cincy 20:48USF 9:12We scored so quickly our D was worn down; Our D came up big on 4th and 1 and was back on the field after 1 play; same goes for when they forced Cincy to punt. Our offense was maybe too productive(if there is such a thing) tonight+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted October 24, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Way too many 3rd and long conversions. I don't think we forced a punt after midway in the 2nd quarter. in fairness to the defense,a lot of it was because Cincy simply made some really amazing plays. Its never a positive thing when a defense gives up an all time program high in yardage, but when it comes in a win it is soon forgotten. The good news is that there isn't another QB on our schedule that is anywhere near the elusiveness as Collaros. Still need to come up with more turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldoze Posted October 24, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 46 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/16/2009 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Not a conference game, but I think Miami has a better passing game than Cincinnati. They also have a stable of running backs that all can outperform Pead. As far as conference foes, I think Pittsburgh's offense is hitting their stride. Other than those two, no other offenses scare me the rest of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commbull Posted October 24, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 477 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/07/2007 Share Posted October 24, 2010 So the D still needs more out of the O if we're to be successful. The offense just has to hold the ball for a while. Scoring on a single play (or virtually so) several times is nice, but it wears out our D. Got to even the TOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfbullcpa Posted October 24, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,985 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2007 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Giving up the third and long play has been an issue since we got to the BCS teams this year. You are right that Holtz is definitely playing the "bend don't break" soft zone D in this case. We have had so many 3rd and +10 yard situations that break out for first downs it is sick, but they have rarely given up points.Just disheartening to see the D get two TFL, then lose that momentum and a chance for us to get the ball back.As far as the Cincy TD's this week, for the most part they were great circus catches with our players in good position, they just got out jumped, etc. Though I hated seeing them come back time and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted October 25, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Got tired of carrying the team and said eff it Offense you do something : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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