thebouncer1898 Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,633 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/01/2005 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Kids will be kids, but that doesn't make it right. That group shoulda been at home, in bed at 330am. That being said, pops doesnt need to be poppin a round off at 330am and holdin a bunch of high school kids at gunpoint.There is a lost of wrongdoing here on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usf97 Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 3,649 Reputation: 461 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted September 18, 2010 To be fair....coaching football at the college or NFL level is not always condusive to raising children. Andy Reid has had problems with his kids.....I am also sure Tony Dungy wishes he could have done something to stop his son James from committing suicide. (Not saying Tony had anything to do with it just I can only imagine how hard that would be as a father.)I imagine most coaches work more hours than the average father so there may not be as much "parental oversight". Hopefully, this kid can learn something from this but so often they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted September 18, 2010 obviously the kids are stupid for running around trying to egg someones car at 3am... or threatening to beat another kid up or whatever... Do you guys really have no recollection of what some of you did in high school? I'm sure this is child's play compared to what some others have been involved with in high schoolno need to match someones egg with a gun...that said i'm sure skip would take care of this situation as he should... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted September 18, 2010 also--- coach weiner should probably do his part as well...these clowns would be suspended from my team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtownbull87 Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 44 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 This whole situation is ridiculous. If you look at it the father broke the law just as much if not more than the kids. Both parties made bad decisions. Making 3 teenagers get on their knees and holding them at gunpoint is way over the line, and discharging the firearm was absolutely wrong. The father pretty much screwed himself right there. If he would have handled it properly then he would not be in the predicament he is in now. There is a line between protecting yourself and your family and pulling and firing a gun at three unarmed teenagers regardless of what hour it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroBullChip Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,557 Reputation: 92 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted September 18, 2010 The kids are stupid, but the father is worse. If you take out a firearm under the stand your ground law, you better fire it and kill someone. You cannot threaten people with it. You cannot fire it in the ground. It only works as a defense if you are defending life or against a forcible felony. Discharging it into the ground would be a felony, I believe. Using it to threaten people, even if they are on your land is also illegal. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebeau Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,738 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2007 Share Posted September 18, 2010 How come Trey Holtz' Plant High classmates in the group and their families didn't get all the free publicity in the newspapers like the Holtz family? Doesn't seem fair!wouldnt sell newspapersiver never heard of a high school kids father(errr mother's boyfriend) who grabs his gun instead telling those kids to get the **** out of there. that would have been enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebeau Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,738 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2007 Share Posted September 18, 2010 i dont recall the stand your ground law being interpreted as charge towards the assailants wielding and firing a weapon. You have to be in fear of your life and be in life threatening danger. kids sitting in a car at 330 am doesnt meet those criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted September 18, 2010 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 5,407 Reputation: 1,332 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted September 18, 2010 There are no "perfect" families. Kids make thier own choices. All you can do is give them a good foundation, be consistent in enforcing your rules, and try to monitor their behavior. The son could have slipped out the bedroom window at that time of night. What gets released to the public after an incident or investigation is usually not all the facts in proper context. So people should be very slow to form an opinion on what information is available to them. However, that fact usually doesn't slow people down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Boy am I glad people weren't so paranoid and gun happy in my high school days. nobody ever egged a house before? perhaps toilet papered the trees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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