USF & Kansas are accepted into the club but still sit at the kids' table

[Guest BasketBull.]

There's this established echelon in college football, where the press and the coaches, along with the fans, have in their heads who's who and so on -the USCs, the Ohio States...

The old guards do not get replaced by the newbies, even when those programs are not doing so well.

Ohio State almost lost at home to Ohio and nobody even flinched. On the other hand, they called Kansas' first two games soft and cupcakes. Last year USC got beat by Stanford at home and they wiped that right off.

Kansas has had a long history of poor football, while USF is a newbie that got thumped in the Sun Bowl. Result, this year's rankings can't overcome the perception and established echelon. (Hardly anybody talked about what a great game it was last night.)

Let's see what happens on Sunday and Monday when the rankings come out, but they may punish Kansas for losing to USF. As for the Bulls, they will probably bump us up a few spots and that's it.

 

[mw98gt]

There is another thread with link to Austin newpaper, a blog by AP voter saying that USC will likely blow out tOSU and that this game may stand to be perhaps stand as the best game of the yr let alone the week.

I think this feeling is true for many, and that a lot have talked of this game.

[Brad]

We'll have to sit at the kids table until we provide consistency.  Still, the kids table in the elite Top 25 is a place that just 5 years ago seemed a long way off.  We were at the table for ugly orphans (no offense to orphans or the unbeautiful).  UCiF is out in the cold, damp alley eating our leftovers.

[mw98gt]

We'll have to sit at the kids table until we provide consistency.  Still, the kids table in the elite Top 25 is a place that just 5 years ago seemed a long way off.  We were at the table for ugly orphans (no offense to orphans or the unbeautiful).  UCiF is out in the cold, damp alley eating our leftovers.

I watched the game on DVR after getting home, at least UCiF got mentions in the broadcast last night.  Of course it was Grothe quotes about UCF being the dirtiest team in CFB and about all the personal fouls.

Speaking of penalties, man we have improved greatly, a few years ago we put up penalty numbers like UCF did last week.

[slick1ru2]

I think we will be fine in the polls. How did we get to number 2 last year, where was the "established echelon" then? The fact that we were ranked this preseason after key losses on defense shows that we have respect by the voters.

And yes people did look at the Ohio/Ohio State game and DID notice, that's why so many think USC will dismantle them.

I think your opinion must have been formed from reading rants by disgruntled Kansas fans and USF detractors, and by Big 12 members that were mad that Kansas was rated so high. But Kansas was voted high.

There are just as many, if not more, including ESPN that want new blood at the top. We have been ranked more weeks this season and last then not. We just need to keep playing hard and winning to stay there.

[swamprat]

Winning takes care of polls.

[Guest nybullsfan]

Hey. At least we're in the dining room. Better than sitting outside in the dirt. Give it time.

[Bulls On Parade]

Speaking of penalties, man we have improved greatly, a few years ago we put up penalty numbers like UCF did last week.

Yeah penalties are down alot it seems this year, well atleast the personal fouls.

[CousinRicky]

I think we will be fine in the polls. How did we get to number 2 last year, where was the "established echelon" then? The fact that we were ranked this preseason after key losses on defense shows that we have respect by the voters.

And yes people did look at the Ohio/Ohio State game and DID notice, that's why so many think USC will dismantle them.

I think your opinion must have been formed from reading rants by disgruntled Kansas fans and USF detractors, and by Big 12 members that were mad that Kansas was rated so high. But Kansas was voted high.

There are just as many, if not more, including ESPN that want new blood at the top. We have been ranked more weeks this season and last then not. We just need to keep playing hard and winning to stay there.

Everyone in the Top 10 kept losing last year.  It was kind of an odd year that way.  Unless something similar happens again this year I don't know if we'll crack the Top 10.  But if we keep winning it will at least give us that chance.

[Matt]

until USF and Kansas bring in the revenue streams that the programs you mentioned dol then nothing will change.

money makes the world spin and also chooses who gets to sit at the big table.