Bulls 1 Posted September 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 551 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/31/2002 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I have mentioned this before. We will remain a mid major school until spending on programs increase. From Equity in Athletics web site. Spending on the football programs (rounded).Syracuse $15,008,000Pitt $12,087,000WV $11,328,000UConn $10,433,000Rutgers $10,667,000Louisville $8,988,000Cincy $7,078,000USF $5,378,000 http://ope.ed.gov/ATHLETICS/Search.aspWe have a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted September 30, 2006 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 110 Content Count: 5,410 Reputation: 1,333 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Serious question -- What does having more money have to do with it? Greater recruiting area (travel money)? I am new to some of this. Thanks for the help in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 30, 2006 That list certainly does not prove that spending equals results, we may be spending a third of what Cuse is but that certainly is not translating onto the field. We are not that far from Louisville and no one would argue that they are having trouble finding an identity on the national level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls 1 Posted September 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 551 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/31/2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Equipment, coaches, recruiting (a big one, I don't mean illegal stuff), Practice facilities, Dinning facilities, etc. Things that impress recruiting and can bring a constant flow of GOOD players to USF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Toro Posted September 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 1,981 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/02/2002 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I have mentioned this before. We will remain a mid major school until spending on programs increase. From Equity in Athletics web site. Spending on the football programs (rounded).Syracuse $15,008,000Pitt $12,087,000WV $11,328,000UConn $10,433,000Rutgers $10,667,000Louisville $8,988,000Cincy $7,078,000USF $5,378,000 http://ope.ed.gov/ATHLETICS/Search.aspWe have a long way to go. And you just proved nothing. L'ville spends almost half as much as Syracuse yet they are the 2nd best team in the league. While USF's $5M can kick 'Cuse's $15M ass on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls 1 Posted September 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 551 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/31/2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 That list certainly does not prove that spending equals results, we may be spending a third of what Cuse is but that certainly is not translating onto the field. We are not that far from Louisville and no one would argue that they are having trouble finding an identity on the national level. Wait and watch Cuse in two years. Louisville has been spending more than us for a while. I think there is a pattern., cause and affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BasketBull. Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 WRONG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economics_Nerd82 Posted September 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 502 Content Count: 5,903 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/09/2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I have mentioned this before.  We will remain a mid major school until spending on programs increase. From Equity in Athletics web site. Spending on the football programs (rounded).Syracuse   $15,008,000Pitt  $12,087,000WV $11,328,000UConn  $10,433,000Rutgers $10,667,000Louisville   $8,988,000Cincy   $7,078,000USF $5,378,000 http://ope.ed.gov/ATHLETICS/Search.aspWe have a long way to go.Well, there is certainly a correlation between money spent and how well a team does... but, there is also a decreasing return to it as well. I tend to think we are beyond the point where money has such an important effect on the results. We have a practice field, we have a nice atheltic department, and we have an okay coaching staff. Would another $100,000 add one more win to our record? Another $1,000,000 add one more win? Money only goes so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted September 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Well, that's why we won't be the instant success this year or next year maybe not the next, but now that we are in the BE, we do get a split of the post season football regardless of whether we make a bowl or not. if we do make a bowl, that's even more money for the pot. I believe we made almost $2 million last year by going to a bowl and the our split of the conference money. that was a huge jump over what it was in CUSA. bring that up in a couple of more years and see if the results are the same. As much as we all want it, there is no such thing as instant success for a lot of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls 1 Posted September 30, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 551 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/31/2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Well, there is certainly a correlation between money spent and how well a team does... but, there is also a decreasing return to it as well. I tend to think we are beyond the point where money has such an important effect on the results. We have a practice field, we have a nice atheltic department, and we have an okay coaching staff. Would another $100,000 add one more win to our record? Another $1,000,000 add one more win? Money only goes so far.That is my point, maybe spending and additional $2,000,000 may buy you two more wins and a winning season. Winning seasons buy recruits. True top recruits (those that can qualify and don't come with baggage) will grow the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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