bowman1 Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 2,358 Reputation: 1,116 Days Won: 8 Joined: 06/24/2007 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Looking back, he was doomed from the start due to the following: 1) Sticking with Clemson rather than jumping right in with USF (already mentioned by someone else) 2) Poor sub tier coaching choices - his initial coordinators on offense and defense did not install systems based on the existing talent 3) Trying to install another school’s road map for success instead of looking at what has worked at USF - this is probably the #1 thing that sank him 4) Not recognizing issues on the defensive side earlier Unfortunately, his head coaching career is probably over (or at least will require a long rehab in the coordinator ranks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk00b Posted November 6, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 3,417 Reputation: 1,193 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/09/2010 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, bowman1 said: his initial coordinators on offense His OG OC is pretty **** good. Can't agree with you on this one. Edited November 6, 2022 by Sk00b I'm sure they tried to adjust for the talent but when there is no talent what are the options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12inchtaint! Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 103 Reputation: 83 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/21/2012 Share Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sk00b said: His OG OC is pretty **** good. Can't agree with you on this one. They got rid of him and Shoop. At the end of the day he struck out on two straight DC’s. Offense was serviceable, really would like to know how/why he landed on shoop. A choice that changed the trajectory of his career and the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk00b Posted November 6, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 3,417 Reputation: 1,193 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/09/2010 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, 12inchtaint! said: They got rid of him and Shoop. At the end of the day he struck out on two straight DC’s. Offense was serviceable, really would like to know how/why he landed on shoop. A choice that changed the trajectory of his career and the program. I was pointing out the OC that is now at Ole Miss having a lot of success. Rest of your points are valid and good with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted November 6, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,647 Reputation: 3,330 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Been preaching he was horrible forever. We should have fired him a year ago instead of making excuses and we could have already been showing progress and improving the real culture . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Sermon over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman1 Posted November 6, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 2,358 Reputation: 1,116 Days Won: 8 Joined: 06/24/2007 Share Posted November 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, Sk00b said: His OG OC is pretty **** good. Can't agree with you on this one. Maybe at Ole Miss, where he has talent to work with and Lane Kiffin calling the shots IMO he was marginal here, calling complex plays that our offense had no prayer of running effectively 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted November 7, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,647 Reputation: 3,330 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Glad we finally parted ways with this hack of a coach. Best of luck in the future CJS and you got paid way more than you deserve for one FBS win 2 10/12 seasons of football. Best of luck reviving your career back at Clemson. Now time to move on the rock bottom of USF football and find the replacement. Edited November 7, 2022 by Outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted November 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,374 Reputation: 945 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Glad we finally parted ways with this hack of a coach. Best of luck in the future CJS and you got paid way more than you deserve for one FBS win 2 10/12 seasons of football. Best of luck reviving your career back at Clemson. Now time to move on the rock bottom of USF football and find the replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 7, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Glad we finally parted ways with this hack of a coach. Best of luck in the future CJS and you got paid way more than you deserve for one FBS win 2 10/12 seasons of football. Best of luck reviving your career back at Clemson. Now time to move on the rock bottom of USF football and find the replacement. He’s moved on, you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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