No streaming of Spring Game

[Rocky Style]

I would have enjoyed watching it.  Oh well.

[Ghostbuster]

53 minutes ago, Triple B said:

No we're all not. There are plenty here that realize this is so much ado about nothing it's borderline ridiculous. It's not like we've been streaming the SG forever and suddenly stopped this year. 

Obviously I'm not talking about people who don't care if it's streamed. 

And frankly if your only input on a conversation is "I don't care, doesn't affect me" then why even join the conversation?  The fact that you still choose to comment, suggests you care more about trivializing my problem by saying 'much ado about nothing'.

I (and others) want to watch this game but cannot.  This isn't 1995, it's not hard to stream content online.  And a stupid explanation by a coach, is absolutely fair game for ridicule.

I tore into Strong for suggesting we lost a game because players were distracted by their new (blackout) uniforms.  You better believe I'll go after a coach for suggesting a spring game video could cost him a win.  I mean, my god, how can anyone expect to win a bowl game when your opponents have an entire season of film to digest?

Are the comments minor in the grand scheme?  Sure.  But do the comments make the coaches look dumb (and dismissive of people who can't attend the game in person)?  Yep.  Is the message board fair game to discuss that?  You bet.

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, Ghostbuster said:

Obviously I'm not talking about people who don't care if it's streamed. 

And frankly if your only input on a conversation is "I don't care, doesn't affect me" then why even join the conversation?  The fact that you still choose to comment, suggests you care more about trivializing my problem by saying 'much ado about nothing'.

I (and others) want to watch this game but cannot.  This isn't 1995, it's not hard to stream content online.  And a stupid explanation by a coach, is absolutely fair game for ridicule.

I tore into Strong for suggesting we lost a game because players were distracted by their new (blackout) uniforms.  You better believe I'll go after a coach for suggesting a spring game video could cost him a win.  I mean, my god, how can anyone expect to win a bowl game when your opponents have an entire season of film to digest?

Are the comments minor in the grand scheme?  Sure.  But do the comments make the coaches look dumb (and dismissive of people who can't attend the game in person)?  Yep.  Is the message board fair game to discuss that?  You bet.

You are right in one regard. It's not nothing to those who want to watch but can't and I get it ...... but that's all this really is. My much ado about nothing is more aimed at the unsupportable crap about wasting a chance for publicity and/or to engage fans by not streaming a glorified scrimmage, on a site most non hardcore USF fans have never heard of. You may not agree with CJS's reasoning for not streaming but it does make sense on some levels ..... and saying that the coach suggested a spring game video could cost him a win is hyperbole usually seen from other sources.

I'm sorry you can't go, and can't watch it, but some are making a mountain out of a molehill of it and the message board is fair game to discuss that.

[Brad]

5 hours ago, Ghostbuster said:

it's not hard to stream content online.

It is if you don't have the infrastructure.

The IdentityTB streamed it before.  They are out this time around.  Maybe it wasn't worth the use of their time and equipment.  If only 17 people watch it, maybe not a smart investment.

I'm not saying that is definitely the reason, but I'd rather our coach use another plausible reason than "no one really cares, except for about 17 people".

The diehards that remain and CANNOT go may watch it.  How much more of ANYONE in Tampa Bay will tune in for a scrimmage?

[Triple B]

4 minutes ago, Brad said:

It is if you don't have the infrastructure.

The IdentityTB streamed it before.  They are out this time around.  Maybe it wasn't worth the use of their time and equipment.  If only 17 people watch it, maybe not a smart investment.

I'm not saying that is definitely the reason, but I'd rather our coach use another reason than "no one really cares, except for about 17 people".

Even though it’s probably true, with all 17 being on this board, if that quote is accurate, he shouldn’t have put it that way. 

[Ghostbuster]

2 hours ago, Brad said:

It is if you don't have the infrastructure.

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The diehards that remain and CANNOT go may watch it.  How much more of ANYONE in Tampa Bay will tune in for a scrimmage?

I honest to god watched a livestream of Kelly's press conference where he discussed the athletics contract extensions and his vision for the future.

The fact that

a) someone thought about streaming *that*

and b) my crazy butt actually listened to it

tells me *someone* *somewhere* would be willing to stream *something* from an actual sporting event.

Obviously the press conference only requires a single camera whereas a football game is much more complicated, but I mean it's Raymond James.  They have infrastructure in place for recording games. 

And I gotta go back to what I said earlier, it feels like people are coming up with excuses because the original *was* so bad.  Now I'm hearing the real reason might be 'USF doesn't think it's worth the time/effort/money to stream'.  Well I'd like to know what marketing company thinks having fewer eyeballs on a product will result in more sales down the road.  And Brad to your point, it's not the causal Tampa Bay sporting fan you're trying to catch, it's the USF alum who needs a shot of enthusiasm to get back on board/renew tickets/become first time ticket holder.  

I just don't buy anyone else's version; Scott made it crystal clear in this TB Times article (I pulled some quotes below)

Why USF Bulls aren’t streaming their spring football game

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Your only way to watch the team’s spring exhibition is to be at Raymond James...

Scott said the advantage isn’t about specific plays (which are usually vanilla in a spring game, anyway). It’s about alignment.

The tradeoff is that fans who can’t be at Raymond James Stadium next weekend will have less access to the team at a time where the Bulls are drumming up support as they push for an on-campus stadium. Scott called that side effect “unfortunate.”

“I hate it for some of the fans that maybe won’t be able to make it,” Scott said, “but I think the No. 1 thing that all fans want to do is win.”

Guys he is showing you exactly what he thinks.  That's it, plain and simple, occam's razor.

He thinks a 2 win USF squad without a clear QB1 can get a competitive advantage against BYU for a series or two by keeping a spring scrimmage off the internet.  Good thing he's keeping the alumni game off the internet too, who knows what our foes could do with that.

Edited April 2, 2022 by Ghostbuster

[Triple B]

9 hours ago, Ghostbuster said:

Guys he is showing you exactly what he thinks.

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“I hate it for some of the fans that maybe won’t be able to make it,” Scott said, “but I think the No. 1 thing that all fans want to do is win.”

...

He thinks a 2 win USF squad without a clear QB1 can get a competitive advantage against BYU for a series or two by keeping a spring scrimmage off the internet.

If that is indeed what he thinks and believes he is absolutely doing the right thing. As pathetic as this team was last year, how the hell can you argue that it needs every possible advantage going into that game, no matter how minute. That should outweigh any minuscule, unproven perk that streaming it would bring. 

[Friscobull]

I remember a Facebook stream a few years back, viewership was in the mid 300’s throughout the contest.  I agree only the die hards would watch and if it gets another 50- 100 people in the stands then is it worth it? Who knows, who cares, I end up getting my hopes up in the spring game only to realize we suck on both sides of the ball giving us a false narrative we are good on both sides.  The game in the end doesn’t display anything of value IMO so much ado about nothing. 

[Cubanbull]

1 hour ago, Friscobull said:

I remember a Facebook stream a few years back, viewership was in the mid 300’s throughout the contest.  I agree only the die hards would watch and if it gets another 50- 100 people in the stands then is it worth it? Who knows, who cares, I end up getting my hopes up in the spring game only to realize we suck on both sides of the ball giving us a false narrative we are good on both sides.  The game in the end doesn’t display anything of value IMO so much ado about nothing. 

Well obviously Scott disagrees with you and thinks BYU would find much value in it.

Anyways I’m over it, I just find it funny all the different excuses they keep throwing out there, keep trying boys one is bound to stick. Another pathetic display at handling a decision by USF Athletics 

[Brad]

14 hours ago, Ghostbuster said:

Now I'm hearing the real reason might be 'USF doesn't think it's worth the time/effort/money to stream'.

No you’re not. I simply made a suggestion.