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[NewEnglandBull]

5 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

Why?  They have in the past

Well, I guess…I think the devil is in the details here. How do we define the “fans are coming out?” There always seems to be a stipulation with our fan base: no Thursday night games, no 12:00 games, must have good competition, etc. Is the number 30,000? 40,000? 50,000? I guess if we go with the 30,000 you are probably correct. 

Edited October 3, 2021 by NewEnglandBull

[chapelbull]

2 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Well, I guess…I think the devil is in the details here. How do we define the “fans are coming out?” There always seems to be a stipulation with our fan base: no Thursday night games, no 12:00 games, must have good competition, etc. Is the number 30,000? 40,000? 50,000? I guess if we go with the 30,000 you are probably correct. 

30k for a G5 team is definitely coming out.  But it's been even higher in the past.

[Triple B]

3 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

30k for a G5 team is definitely coming out.  But it's been even higher in the past.

FWIW, in 2017 and 2018, which I assume most would call winning years, we averaged 31K and 38K, respectively.

[chapelbull]

4 minutes ago, Triple B said:

FWIW, in 2017 and 2018, which I assume most would call winning years, we averaged 31K and 38K, respectively.

I think that is very good for a G5 program.  And unfortunately that 2018 finished poorly (that was the losing finish I believe) and it's been downhill from there

[NewEnglandBull]

4 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

I think that is very good for a G5 program.  And unfortunately that 2018 finished poorly (that was the losing finish I believe) and it's been downhill from there

Ok, I can buy that. I still think we have to get out of that enormous stadium however.

[Triple B]

2 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

I think that is very good for a G5 program.  And unfortunately that 2018 finished poorly (that was the losing finish I believe) and it's been downhill from there

Dang, got my years mixed up and should have said 2016 and 2017, so that would have been 37K/31K respectively, with 2016 getting a little bump from FSU/UCF. 2018 barely qualifies as winning and the fact that we averaged the most of those 3 years is kind of baffling, even with the Kanigit bump.

[Brad]

1 hour ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Well, I guess…I think the devil is in the details here. How do we define the “fans are coming out?” There always seems to be a stipulation with our fan base: no Thursday night games, no 12:00 games, must have good competition, etc. 

Keep in mind, many of those requirements are built when a team sucks.  When a team wins, people travel 1200 miles to see them play.

[NewEnglandBull]

That’s true Brad. Thus, it is probably the wrong time to be talking about this.

[Triple B]

3 minutes ago, Brad said:

Keep in mind, many of those requirements are built when a team sucks.  When a team wins, people travel 1200 miles to see them play.

For a Thursday night game? Agree that losing plays a part but we only drew 26K for a Thursday night game in 2017 with an 8-1 record and one of the most dynamic players in our history.

[Brad]

Well again, there is an exception to every argument.

I’d also argue more than half of the fan base was pared by then.  27K out of probably 30K  is good.  If you were expecting a WVU-like attendance, those days are gone (for now).  But we need to move on.  

Besides, I don’t think a lower attendance on a Thursday night game indicates much of anything.  Many people don’t find that a good day for tailgating, getting out of work or staying out late.  We’re never going to have mind control over Bulls fans to convince them a Thursday is like a Saturday.  That’s probably true of most programs.