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10 minutes ago, Triple B said:

I guess it's all about how you want to look at it. To me, USF getting into a BCS conference was huge and serious fans/donors should have saw it for it was and wanted to get on board. There weren't enough of them that got that. From the USF perspective, why would/should they have been seriously looking at an ocs when our football father called it a great recruiting tool and <enter the iconic overhead photo of the 2007 game>. RayJay was just fine at that point. Where I can go along with is that there maybe should have been a bigger push for an IPF back then. It was more of a necessity then just as it is now ...

The NFL stadium may have been a great recruiting tool for the original players. Kids that were not on the radar of bigger programs and were getting a shot a playing for a brand new team and being part of something new.

People that bought into the BS that Ray Jay has been a recruiting tool since about 2000 are really naive, gullible or just not very perceptive.

It has been clear to me since the beginning that we needed an OCS. 

I am honestly pleasantly surprised that it FINALLY seems unanimous on TBP at this point. I’ve argued with many on this board about this for years.

Better late than never I suppose…
 

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Payroll still runs.

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8 minutes ago, Brad said:

When you blame everyone, you blame no one.  No accountability.  Expect us to continue in the same direction.

if I can't blame everyone, I'm going with John Allen ....

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2 minutes ago, Triple B said:

if I can't blame everyone, I'm going with John Allen ....

Good step, okay now a live one.

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12 minutes ago, SpeedBull said:

The NFL stadium may have been a great recruiting tool for the original players. Kids that were not on the radar of bigger programs and were getting a shot a playing for a brand new team and being part of something new.

People that bought into the BS that Ray Jay has been a recruiting tool since about 2000 are really naive, gullible or just not very perceptive.

It has been clear to me since the beginning that we needed an OCS. 

I am honestly pleasantly surprised that it FINALLY seems unanimous on TBP at this point. I’ve argued with many on this board about this for years.

Better late than never I suppose…
 

Exactly, The first year in RJS was bad- it was NEVER the answer and that has NOTHING to do with the Rustbucket - it wasn't around.  Yes, Leavitt liked RJS.  I never understood that, just as he liked the spring game at RJS and not on campus.  That was a controversial issue too.

 

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6 minutes ago, Triple B said:

if I can't blame everyone, I'm going with John Allen ....

Well you would be correct and he is suspect #1 but he is dead so let’s direct our wrath at the living. 😀

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27 minutes ago, Brad said:

Good step, okay now a live one.

GOL. If that bastard hadn't lied on his resume, the Kanigits would never have had access to a 2 time COY ....

There's been no compelling evidence presented that supports blaming this on any one living person or thing on the USF side ....... as much as many want to try

 

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It is their program.  I hope they don't feel the same as you.  

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2 hours ago, SpeedBull said:

honestly pleasantly surprised that it FINALLY seems unanimous on TBP at this point. I’ve argued with many on this board about this for years

We were getting gaslighted from all directions.

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2 hours ago, SpeedBull said:

am honestly pleasantly surprised that it FINALLY seems unanimous on TBP at this point.

:nope:

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