chapelbull Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Triple B said: I would hate to have an investigation on something as potentially damaging, in a multitude of ways, as this one without having a **** thorough one ... What's to investigate? Either he said something racist or he didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted April 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, chapelbull said: Over two weeks since this investigation news "broke" and possibly months since it allegedly occurred and we still don't know what was said even. Sounds pretty suspicious It really does. At this point I have shifted my position from he stays to he “could” be gone. Either way I am not sure any alternative is going to be good for the short term for the team. 14 minutes ago, puc86 said: So if you want to fire someone for supposed race issues you actually have to investigate it or you maybe sued but if you want to fire them for anything else you don’t have to worry about it and just ahead and lose your lawsuit? In 2021, the short answer is “yes.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,673 Reputation: 10,892 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted April 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, chapelbull said: What's to investigate? Either he said something racist or he didn't? I think the length of time it's taking indicates it's probably not something as black and white as that, pun intended ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,270 Reputation: 6,153 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Triple B said: I think the length of time it's taking indicates it's probably not something as black and white as that, pun intended ..... I think the little that has been said in the public definitely indicates that it’s not, in which case it really is as simple as what do you want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjef4844 Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 424 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/26/2005 Share Posted April 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, chapelbull said: What's to investigate? Either he said something racist or he didn't? For Herrion that's a simple yes or no, but the investigation will also delve into what Gregory knew and how he dealt with it, and that may be where Kelly is getting his ducks in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,270 Reputation: 6,153 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted April 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: It really does. At this point I have shifted my position from he stays to he “could” be gone. Either way I am not sure any alternative is going to be good for the short term for the team. In 2021, the short answer is “yes.” In 2021 the answer is fire, just having an investigation is insensitive and flies in the face of believing all victims 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted April 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Triple B said: I think the length of time it's taking indicates it's probably not something as black and white as that, pun intended ..... I think the length of time indicates that it isn't, but we'll let an independent investigation decide so we don't have to suffer the backlash either way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted April 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, puc86 said: In 2021 the answer is fire, just having an investigation is insensitive and flies in the face of believing all victims At the same time it “perhaps” does not have to be an investigation...but the appearance of an investigation (to satisfy the academic and public communities). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,270 Reputation: 6,153 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted April 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: At the same time it “perhaps” does not have to be an investigation...but the appearance of an investigation (to satisfy the academic and public communities). I imagine the entire process being a live performance of Kafka’s The Trial, it’s the Usf athletics way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 minute ago, puc86 said: I imagine the entire process being a live performance of Kafka’s The Trial, it’s the Usf athletics way Good point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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