puc86 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, brybull1970 said: My premise is that our failure to build a strong, revenue-generating athletic department has put as at a competitive disadvantage for the next round of realignment in or around 2025. I strongly believe that UCF's commitment to fund athletics has put itself in prime position for a P5 invite, while USF is now barely even mentioned in those conversations. If/when UCF makes the move to the P5 and we are left behind, we will again feel that seismic shift to the point where whatever money that remains will dry up and we will be left with the decision to fold or move down. This is not being looked at through the lens of the ECU game, but through the lens of a 13 year period from 2012 to 2025. UCF's and USF's current diverging trajectory is now only setting this scenario up as a possibility, but a likelihood. Clearly you haven’t heard that we are a package deal, there is no way they would throw away the value that brings in order to do a little thing like be in a better conference. #strongertogether 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrush33 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 790 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2008 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Good grief. College football ebbs and flows. Will those posturing for a demotion will you stop coming to the board if we don’t demote ourselves next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, brybull1970 said: My premise is that our failure to build a strong, revenue-generating athletic department has put as at a competitive disadvantage for the next round of realignment in or around 2025. I strongly believe that UCF's commitment to fund athletics has put itself in prime position for a P5 invite, while USF is now barely even mentioned in those conversations. If/when UCF makes the move to the P5 and we are left behind, we will again feel that seismic shift to the point where whatever money that remains will dry up and we will be left with the decision to fold or move down. This is not being looked at through the lens of the ECU game, but through the lens of a 13 year period from 2012 to 2025. UCF's and USF's current diverging trajectory is now only setting this scenario up as a possibility, but a likelihood. Im not going to get pulled into a discussion about comparing our program to UCF. Ill leave that to all the other folks that love to do that. Regarding USF, we have alot of work to do for sure. I truly believe we have the right people in place with Kelly in charge and CJS for that matter. I think they are doing the best they can to improve the program. This covid year have put their plans in slow gear. Past administrations, could they have done better and put more emphasis on upgrading the football program? Yes probably.....But its not like they did nothing. Basketball, Soccer, Baseball and Softball facilities were badly need of upgrade.....only so much money to go around Brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, brybull1970 said: My premise is that our failure to build a strong, revenue-generating athletic department has put as at a competitive disadvantage for the next round of realignment in or around 2025. I strongly believe that UCF's commitment to fund athletics has put itself in prime position for a P5 invite, while USF is now barely even mentioned in those conversations. If/when UCF makes the move to the P5 and we are left behind, we will again feel that seismic shift to the point where whatever money that remains will dry up and we will be left with the decision to fold or move down. This is not being looked at through the lens of the ECU game, but through the lens of a 13 year period from 2012 to 2025. UCF's and USF's current diverging trajectory is now only setting this scenario up as a possibility, but a likelihood. Im not going to get pulled into a discussion about comparing our program to UCF. Ill leave that to all the other folks that love to do that. Regarding USF, we have alot of work to do for sure. I truly believe we have the right people in place with Kelly in charge and CJS for that matter. I think they are doing the best they can to improve the program. This covid year have put their plans in slow gear. Past administrations, could they have done better and put more emphasis on upgrading the football program? Yes probably.....But its not like they did nothing. Basketball, Soccer, Baseball and Softball facilities were badly need of upgrade.....only so much money to go around Brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,853 Reputation: 3,978 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted October 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, brybull1970 said: I do alot of due diligence for M&A's and sometimes its hard to turn that side of my brain off and not look at this as a business as opposed to entertainment. Do you ever read your posts and wonder if you ever come across as a pompous arse? You are a smart guy but please don’t feel the need to tell us every chance you get. I am an ******* at times and welcome the constructive criticism, a statement like the one above is off putting IMO, and this is coming from an ******* so I know what I am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,561 Reputation: 10,834 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, brybull1970 said: And 8 years ago I didn't think we wouldn't be in a BCS conference or would be one of the worst programs in FBS. Clearly you didn't follow puc's postings after CJL's dismissal ..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,853 Reputation: 3,978 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, brybull1970 said: Thanks for the constructive criticism. You are welcome, I do what I can to ensure we make this board a better place for all, It is my altruism that always seems to bubble to the top. I like the new Bry, very accepting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Triple B said: Clearly you didn't follow puc's postings after CJL's dismissal ..... Should I recap it for those that missed it? Sometimes I worry I haven’t been clear enough over the past eleven years and it never hurts to drive home your message for those that may need remediation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,561 Reputation: 10,834 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Friscobull said: You are welcome, I do what I can to ensure we make this board a better place for Maybe you should set your sights on the Pittsburgh Kid .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 14, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Triple B said: Maybe you should set your sights on the Pittsburgh Kid .... Speaking of plans destined for failure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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