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We look like we’re playing a back yard pick up game. Our QBs are terrible.
 

Overall the team looks small, slow, soft, unprepared etc.

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15 minutes ago, cmhatter said:

We look like we’re playing a back yard pick up game. Our QBs are terrible.
 

Overall the team looks small, slow, soft, unprepared etc.

It all reflects management 

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Just completely over matched physically and it makes everything else look worse 

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ND has 11 players sitting out. Nine unavailable and two on the sidelines who won’t play. They have walkons playing in the 1st Q.

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Take it easy, y'all. If you've been watching closely, you've already seen improvement in the VERY short time CJS and crew have had to affect change in our program. We are moving in the right direction overall. Yes, we are completely outmatched by this ND team, but it wasn't a fair fight to begin with and we all knew this going in. ND needs a nice box score for the playoff committee. In exchange we get them at home, and chances to beat them when CJS & crew have more time to lay foundation and create a new culture from the toxic ones left behind by Taggart and Strong. Give them time. Of course its frustrating as a USF fan to see our team get ploughed, but Michael Kelly and CJS have us moving in the right direction, finally, for the first time in years. I am happy to have this post quoted this time next year and the one following; mark my words, to the discerning eye, good things are happening. The scale is so small and the time scale long enough that it's hard to tell right now if you're not looking real close.

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2 minutes ago, FazaUSF said:

Take it easy, y'all. If you've been watching closely, you've already seen improvement in the VERY short time CJS and crew have had to affect change in our program. We are moving in the right direction overall. Yes, we are completely outmatched by this ND team, but it wasn't a fair fight to begin with and we all knew this going in. ND needs a nice box score for the playoff committee. In exchange we get them at home, and chances to beat them when CJS & crew have more time to lay foundation and create a new culture from the toxic ones left behind by Taggart and Strong. Give them time. Of course its frustrating as a USF fan to see our team get ploughed, but Michael Kelly and CJS have us moving in the right direction, finally, for the first time in years. I am happy to have this post quoted this time next year and the one following; mark my words, to the discerning eye, good things are happening. The scale is so small and the time scale long enough that it's hard to tell right now if you're not looking real close.

Exactly how strong of a microscope do you have to have to see that improvement? Think of all the bad teams we have had, now think of all the good teams we have played, this performance managed to be worse than any we have had ever with any coach with any team against any competition, that's not typically seen as improvement. 

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35 minutes ago, BayIslandBull said:

People really thought that these players with new coaches and about 4 weeks of practice could be competitive with a top 10 team? It's gonna take a little while. 

This.... we are so thin on talent 

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20 minutes ago, puc86 said:

Exactly how strong of a microscope do you have to have to see that improvement? Think of all the bad teams we have had, now think of all the good teams we have played, this performance managed to be worse than any we have had ever with any coach with any team against any competition, that's not typically seen as improvement. 

Wow. How quickly you forget Wisconsin last year. And McNeese St. At Pitt, in the rain, at the end of the Big East era. Taggart's first two years were nothing but dreadful. As was CCS' final year and a half. Believe me I could go on; I have bled as much as any USF fan with our teams.

It doesn't take a microscope. Players sticking to assignments, when they used to fail at that constantly. Players actually tackling, even if ND players were generally much larger and more difficult to tackle than our average opponents, we weren't arm tackling, we weren't giving up before trying. That was a major issue the entire time with both Taggart and Strong. Our OL and DL were far undersized compared with ND but they stayed with it, hard, til the end; they were just outmatched by bigger, heavier guys. The holes the OL opened up against Citadel was refreshing compared with the entire back half of the CCS era. The players overtly showed supporting each other despite adversity. Under CCS adversity made us crumble, immediately. Just watch player and coaching staff interactions; CCS lost his locker room in year 2. CJS and co have this locker room solidly behind them. We tried running a fake punt, which was refreshing. Yes, it didn't go as planned. But we tried, and that's something which to me shows ambition, intention for growth, and a willingness to take chances even with a younger, less well-trained personnell with lots of need for coaching for improvement. There were jitters and boneheaded plays, like with our long snapper today, no doubt. I'm not saying everything has magically turned around. But with a solid culture installed, the chemistry will build, the recruitment will come, and later the wins will come. This is the first coach since CJL who has even TRIED to install a culture FIRST. It is real leadership, gentlemen. That is what leads to wins. Swallow the tough year we will have this year, which we were always going to have no matter who coached. Things will improve, because now we have real leadership.

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15 minutes ago, FazaUSF said:

Take it easy, y'all. If you've been watching closely, you've already seen improvement in the VERY short time CJS and crew have had to affect change in our program. We are moving in the right direction overall. Yes, we are completely outmatched by this ND team, but it wasn't a fair fight to begin with and we all knew this going in. ND needs a nice box score for the playoff committee. In exchange we get them at home, and chances to beat them when CJS & crew have more time to lay foundation and create a new culture from the toxic ones left behind by Taggart and Strong. Give them time. Of course its frustrating as a USF fan to see our team get ploughed, but Michael Kelly and CJS have us moving in the right direction, finally, for the first time in years. I am happy to have this post quoted this time next year and the one following; mark my words, to the discerning eye, good things are happening. The scale is so small and the time scale long enough that it's hard to tell right now if you're not looking real close.

I'm with you. Discipline is much better.  I didn't see any moping at the end of the game. 

Let's not forget you are still missing 2 of your starting OL. 

Guys seemed like they were in the right place, just need some size and recruits. 

Maybe 2 years, but I can see we are on a better track. 

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