Dave_Glaser Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 355 Content Count: 4,098 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Brad said: I don't buy all the anti-Leavitt stuff, but it's possible. Maybe never, who knows. But even ASU (P5 by the way), as I have posted here several times, realized they had to bring back Frank Kush to heal their fan base. They did. He was instrumental in their program's development. They buried the hatchet and grew some balls to unite in the interest of the program. USF probably never will. I just think USF thinks they know better. You want life in this program, you bring him back in some capacity. Drop the pride and the ********. Now nearly everything around ASU football is named after Kush. Their fan base LOVES the guy. So, anyway, if USF decides to allow a slow death (as it seems) that's their prerogative. If you want to unite everyone but Neb ( ) you do something. Kelly has a terrific opportunity. This will define his administration. Even a new coach, all by itself, won't bring any attention. We're on life support. I'd be surprised if he doesn't make some sort of offer at some point. But he has bigger problems on his hands, like the extinction of the program. Doesn't do any good to welcome back the founder of the program when it is dead. No one in USF’s administration wants to rehash the Leavitt story in the media. We are an educational institution that plays football, not a football entity that happens to offer a few classes. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,002 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 29, 2019 We'll see. ASU is allegedly an academic institution too. But, times have changed, too. The more PC nature of campuses would likely result in an immediate demonstration on allegations against Leavitt (violence, ****, toxic masculinity, etc.) which these days is enough to condemn. ASU could welcome back their coach because it was a simpler time. They actually had proof Kush struck a player. USF could never prove McMurphy's allegations. But it's a different day. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Glaser Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 355 Content Count: 4,098 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Brad said: We'll see. ASU is allegedly an academic institution too. But, times have changed, too. The more PC nature of campuses would likely result in an immediate demonstration on allegations against Leavitt (violence, ****, toxic masculinity, etc.) which these days is enough to condemn. ASU could welcome back their coach because it was a simpler time. They actually had proof Kush struck a player. USF could never prove McMurphy's allegations. But it's a different day. We'll see. Brad, no. Save yourself the angst. Just wondering, why do you think it is that Jim hasn’t had a head coaching job since he left USF? He’s certainly shown a willlingness to move east/west. Why isn’t he the head coach at K-State today? Edited September 29, 2019 by Dave_Glaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,002 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Because he lost a battle in the media. He is hard headed and ham handed. He didn't have support of his employer and got flushed. You know McMurphy was going after him non stop, and finally found foils in the locker room. Some, heroes of our dying program. All lose. that's why I think the admin should try to solve. Karma is a _____. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 He ain’t coming back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dausfbulls11 Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 320 Content Count: 3,030 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/15/2005 Share Posted September 29, 2019 He has certainly been considered....his lack of championships with us doesnt help.....i do believe he will get his shot. But like Brad, even as an advisor would bring some closure and pride back to the fanbase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,002 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: He ain’t coming back... I hope for his sake you are right. I hope he continues to coach somewhere he wants to. He owes USF nothing. That ship is on its own in deep waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dausfbulls11 Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 320 Content Count: 3,030 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/15/2005 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Tell me Coach Jim couldnt help recruit some Tampa talent to stay home 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Glaser Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 355 Content Count: 4,098 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Don’t think for a minute that I don’t appreciate Jim. He will always be the most important figure in the history of USF football, but he’s never coming back. Edited September 29, 2019 by Dave_Glaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 29, 2019 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,002 Reputation: 10,809 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Are you familiar with the Frank Kush thing? Just curious. Some thought the same with his situation - and it was much more egregious. But sanity (or, perhaps, money) prevailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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