USF Bulls Football Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 84 Content Count: 1,180 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/28/2007 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, JTrue said: Except Boldin has about 3 inches and 20 lbs on QF and Fitzgerald who has about 5 inches and 20 lbs. And both spent their entire career learning the intricacies of the position. Neither of them is making their millions on pure speed. Blah blah blah... you and your facts. NFL gets a wooly in their pocket about measurables. And those, or the lack of hurt his chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, USF Bulls Football said: Blah blah blah... you and your facts. NFL gets a wooly in their pocket about measurables. And those, or the lack of hurt his chances. Measurable... you mean, things like speed? Because without measurable, QF isn't much of a WR seeing as how he's never caught a pass in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 hours ago, Bull Dozer said: This is ridiculous and completely absolves Flowers of HIS desire to play QB. He had plenty of P5 offers from powerhouse programs if he wanted to take the RB or DB path. QF ultimately chose his path to do what he wanted to do. This may be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on TBP, and that says a lot. I'm simply saying that letting an 18-year-old pick the direction of the rest of their lives is often not a great choice, they're not the best decision makers and Q doesn't seem to be surrounded by wisdom. Sure, USF was his path to be a QB. Our program paid huge dividends for that. On the unfortunate side, it did him zero good for the NFL. I adore Q as a player and as a human. It doesn't mean the likelihood of him getting rich is in anything but football and that deciding to be a QB in college will likely kill that dream. P.S. He should've been earning big bucks during his time at USF as QB. What he did for this university is almost unfathomable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,962 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, JTrue said: Measurable... you mean, things like speed? Because without measurable, QF isn't much of a WR seeing as how he's never caught a pass in his career. Neither had Freddie Solomon. Would have been great if FS was still alive to possibly mentor Q through a transition, if that's what Flowers wants to try ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotsofbull99 Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 114 Content Count: 6,744 Reputation: 912 Days Won: 17 Joined: 02/17/2002 Share Posted December 20, 2017 USF coaching staff totally failed QF, spent four years trying to develop him into a QB, and now at the next level he's going to be a RB. If AW hadn't broken his foot, QF would have been USF's all time leading rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 hours ago, JTrue said: Except Boldin has about 3 inches and 20 lbs on QF and Fitzgerald who has about 5 inches and 20 lbs. And both spent their entire career learning the intricacies of the position. Neither of them is making their millions on pure speed. Anquan Boldin's combine numbers 72.6 inches (6' ) 216 lbs 4.73 40 yard dash Quinton Flowers according to nfl draft scout 6' 210 lbs 4.57 40 yard dash funny thing is he didn't mention anything about height or weight.Just speed. Alfred Morris 2 time probowler is shorter(5'10"), slower (4.67) and only 5 pounds heavier. oh and Quinton had more rushing yards in college than he had. Le'Veon Bell ran a slower 40 (4.6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted December 20, 2017 He's going to get a shot somewhere... you can't turn on the tape and watch him with the ball in his hands and not be impressed. Remember that there was a whole thing this year about DJ and Tice trying to learn from Q. If he can understand blocking as a RB, I think he'll make the transition just fine. I have no idea if he can really run a 4.57, but, if that's true, here's some comparisons at the RB position. Derick Henry - 4.54 Alex Collins - 4.59 Fournette - 4.51 Kamara - 4.53 Hunt - 4.62 Perine - 4.66 Gallman - 4.57 To me, Kamara is a good comp for Q. Obviously, more polished since he's played RB forever, however, similar ability to not be tackled and make plays. Q will get a shot based solely on playmaking ability. The dolphins have Jakeem Grant and are tying to figure him out, Kamara, Collins, etc... these guys are all just football players that coaches and teams make work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, Bull94 said: Anquan Boldin's combine numbers 72.6 inches (6' ) 216 lbs 4.73 40 yard dash Quinton Flowers according to nfl draft scout 6' 210 lbs 4.57 40 yard dash funny thing is he didn't mention anything about height or weight.Just speed. Alfred Morris 2 time probowler is shorter(5'10"), slower (4.67) and only 5 pounds heavier. oh and Quinton had more rushing yards in college than he had. Le'Veon Bell ran a slower 40 (4.6) I'll guess we'll have this conversation in a few years and see if QF becomes the next Boldin/Fitzgerald/Morris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 20, 2017 9 hours ago, Triple B said: Neither had Freddie Solomon. Would have been great if FS was still alive to possibly mentor Q through a transition, if that's what Flowers wants to try ... That's my point. If you've never played the position, the only thing scouts have to go on is measurables. You're measuring QF's speed, size, agility, etc. and guessing what kind of WR/RB he's going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USF Bulls Football Posted December 20, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 84 Content Count: 1,180 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/28/2007 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Would love to be wrong, but scouts are looking at the measurables (to include speed). Tough to change positions and succeed in the nfl without MEASURABLES that blow people away. You can dislike it all you want, but to pretend Q is going to change to a new position and stick is close to ignorant when a real good rb like Hall or a real good wr like Adams have been unable to stick. And in regards to height, Q isn’t 6’ tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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