Bull Matrix Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 15, 2014 A. Conference championships That's the golden ticket. Re alignment wheels will fire up within the next 2 years if that keeps the Big12 out. I would love to see the BIG 12 go to 14 teams like the SEC has. Hopefully, the TV networks can convince them that they will get more money by adding better TV markets. Wouldnt mind seeing Cincy, USF, UCF, BYU or UConn get the 4 invites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 15, 2014 If they insist on a game, they now have the power to make their own rules for the minimum number of teams needed, like they unsuccessfully petitioned the NCAA for earlier this year. So I wouldn't get my hopes up about expansion seeing they just tried to get it changed 4 months back. This rule is not part of the Autonomy... the P5 cannot make this rule on their own. It requires all of Division 1 to support it. A. Conference championships That's the golden ticket. Re alignment wheels will fire up within the next 2 years if that keeps the Big12 out. The Big 12 has a conference champion. True, it doesn't say, "conference championship game." Yes, this is technically true... however, a conference championship game adds to the strength of schedule... and I think it will be a factor when the Big 12 is left out of the playoffs the first two or three years. (And yes, I think it is more likely than not they will be left out.) That's the golden ticket. Re alignment wheels will fire up within the next 2 years if that keeps the Big12 out. More than likely it will in some years. The other conferences are already upset with the BIG12 for not having to play conference title game. Also, OU has already pushed for the BIG 12 to get back to 12 teams. So it is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fold FB Invest in BB Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 76 Content Count: 6,712 Reputation: 1,131 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted August 15, 2014 B through E are will be highly exclusionary of non P5 teams, especially when the P5 shift to playing exclusively with themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted August 15, 2014 there hasnt been a peep about further expansion orlando and usf contingent needs to send their emissaries with a suitcase of benjamins to big 12 bosses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Factor E. is a catch-all that gives total discretion to the powers that be on close casesCan anyone imagine a scenario where an aac team makes the playoff and it isn't a close case Agreed. That would mean leaving 2 P5 champions out of the playoffs and just don't see that happening.... so anybody following USF football just because they have a legit shot at the still MNC needs to take a break and come back when/if we get into a P5 conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Factor E. is a catch-all that gives total discretion to the powers that be on close casesCan anyone imagine a scenario where an aac team makes the playoff and it isn't a close case Agreed. That would mean leaving 2 P5 champions out of the playoffs and just don't see that happening.... so anybody following USF football just because they have a legit shot at the still MNC needs to take a break and come back when/if we get into a P5 conference. Would require an undefeated 13 and 0 AAC team and TWO P5 conference champs with 2 or more losses on the season. And even that may not be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted August 15, 2014 if b12 expands -- cinci is in and I think its USF or UCF.... thats why we need to right the ship and invest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted August 15, 2014 If they insist on a game, they now have the power to make their own rules for the minimum number of teams needed, like they unsuccessfully petitioned the NCAA for earlier this year. So I wouldn't get my hopes up about expansion seeing they just tried to get it changed 4 months back. This rule is not part of the Autonomy... the P5 cannot make this rule on their own. It requires all of Division 1 to support it. A. Conference championships That's the golden ticket. Re alignment wheels will fire up within the next 2 years if that keeps the Big12 out. The Big 12 has a conference champion. True, it doesn't say, "conference championship game." Yes, this is technically true... however, a conference championship game adds to the strength of schedule... and I think it will be a factor when the Big 12 is left out of the playoffs the first two or three years. (And yes, I think it is more likely than not they will be left out.) That's the golden ticket. Re alignment wheels will fire up within the next 2 years if that keeps the Big12 out. More than likely it will in some years. The other conferences are already upset with the BIG12 for not having to play conference title game. Also, OU has already pushed for the BIG 12 to get back to 12 teams. So it is coming. So, am I to assume that as long as Jeff Bower is not on their selection committee that we have a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted August 15, 2014 If a Big 12 team were somehow able to get into the national championship game without having to play a conference championship game, I think the remaining players in the P-5 would certainly try to leverage the Big 12 to expand, or the 12-team requirement for a conference championship game would have to get waived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 One thing that might be of interest here -- that we might have missed: 8. Participants. There shall be no limit on the number of teams that may participate from one conference in the playoff semifinals and the associated bowl games. So there are 12 spots in the playoffs and associated games.... and six will go to the P5 and the best G5 school... If the Big 12 gets left out of the CFP (because they only have 10 teams and no championship game)... and then only gets one team in the 12 slots ... it might affect their future decisions. How many times will we see something like this: SEC: 3-4 teams Big 10 2-3 teams Pac 12 2-3 teams ACC 1-2 teams Big 12 1 team AAC/MWC 1 team Will the Big 12 like this? Could this actually happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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